Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Charles Ying

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The result was keep. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:00, 10 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Charles Ying

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the zhwiki article is equally terribly sourced, and I searched both in English and Chinese and I can't find much in the way of significant coverage, it's largely passing mentions or unreliable fan cruft (you'll note, the EL sources that were originally used here, which were fan sites and a forum have been removed for obvious reasons.) I don't see how he passes WP:NACTOR despite the blue linked filmography, all the roles were minor and I don't see how he passes WP:NMUSIC since it doesn't appear his career took off beyond the record labels promotional period. PICKLEDICAE🥒 22:50, 27 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians and Hong Kong. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 08:11, 28 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources. Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Basic criteria says:
People are presumed notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject.
- If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability; trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources is not usually sufficient to establish notability.
Sources
1. Hui, Bolun 許栢倫 (2016-07-13). "【專訪。影片】應昌佑婚後真男人：在娛樂圈生存比我想中難" (in Chinese). HK01. Archived from the original on 2022-08-28. Retrieved 2022-08-28.
  The article notes from Google Translate: "Ying Changyou debuted in 2005 but did not see results. This year, he returned to the music scene with his new song "Come Here". After doing many interviews, Ying Changyou admitted that he was not used to it at first: ... When it comes to people who have to be thankful, apart from the old boss Dawn, he is Mother. Ying Changyou's mother is Ran Xiaoling, a popular singer in Taiwan in the 1970s. Her mother was successful, but her son was struggling in the entertainment industry. Ying Changyou did not feel pressured because of this."
2. Go, Naren 鄉奈仁 (2019-03-06). "【入行10年都冇代表作】應昌佑有歌藝冇星運為家庭不再追夢轉做打工仔". Apple Daily (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2022-08-28. Retrieved 2022-08-28 – via Yahoo! News.
  The article notes from Google Translate: "I often hear that some people give up their careers to pursue their dreams! The 39-year-old Ying Changyou (Charles) is just the opposite. For the sake of his wife and children, he would rather give up his dream and return to the office as a working family from the singer on the platform. It's just four simple words - "steady and steady"! Charles' mother was Ran Xiaoling, who was popular in Taiwan in the 1970s and was known as the "Queen of Bass Songs". In 2004, Charles signed with A Music, led by Liming. Besides him, the other singer was Wei Lan. The two sang love songs, one male and one other. The female clapped on; unfortunately, only Wei Lan was the only one who successfully bounced; in 2014, facing the 10-year contract being full, and still not having a masterpiece, Charles decided that the strong man would break his arm!"
3. Ling (2015-07-20). "歌手應昌佑兼職搵奶粉錢文章版權為新傳媒集團所擁有". Sunday Kiss (in Chinese). New Media Group [zh]. Archived from the original on 2022-08-28. Retrieved 2022-08-28.
  The article notes from Google Translate: "Charles himself is good at graphic design. He graduated from the Rhode Island Design University in the United States. When he returned to Hong Kong, he worked as a designer at Nike. After the singer's contract expired, he often got his money back. After the design freelance, and the invitation of friends to open a company to engage in activities together, the income is more impressive than before."
4. "《流行經典》帶挈開騷！應昌佑淡出樂壇？". Oriental Daily (in Chinese). 2018-06-03. Archived from the original on 2022-08-28. Retrieved 2022-08-28.
  The article notes from Google Translate: "And Charles said that there is a new career development now, it is marketing, the company helps people do production, so he will take this job first, and he has a family and a family to do a good job, and he will no longer devote himself to singing."
5. Go, Naren 鄉奈仁 (2019-03-08). "應昌佑娛圈路坎坷". Apple Daily (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2022-08-28. Retrieved 2022-08-28.
  The article notes from Google Translate: "Ying Changyou returned to Hong Kong from studying in the United States in 2004, and was immediately appreciated by the musician Lei Songde. He then joined Liming's A Music as a singer and caught up with Wei Lan. It's a pity that Ying Changyou had no representative works ten years after his debut, and was forced to give up his dream of becoming an office worker because of his family."
6. Wang, Lianlian 王連連 (2005-08-05). "告別190磅肥仔Look 應昌佑瞓身報答黎明". Apple Daily (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2022-08-28. Retrieved 2022-08-28.
  The article notes from Google Translate: "Ying Changyou, a newcomer to the music scene supported by Liming, will release his debut album at the end of this month. Ying Changyou is very nervous and fully participates in the production work. Once a 190 pound overweight boy, he is determined to achieve good results with perseverance. ... Ying Changyou, who used to work for a big brand sneaker company, said that he was not used to the life of day and night when he first entered the industry, and he felt uncomfortable even being recognized by passers-by on the street, but after so many months, he began to get used to it."
7. "〈娛樂乜乜乜〉還記得應昌佑嗎？" (in Chinese). NOW.com. 2016-05-24. Archived from the original on 2022-08-28. Retrieved 2022-08-28.
  The article notes from Google Translate: "Recently, Changyou Ying entered the studio after 8 years, and continued his dream of being a singer. Eric Kwok helped him make songs. During the interview, he talked about his ups and downs and shouting. ... When it comes to Ying Changyou, it is natural to think of Dawn. Many people say that Li Sheng doesn't know how to run A Music, and his singers are exhausted one by one. I basically agree, but if anyone blames Li Sheng for not holding Ying Changyou, I will definitely oppose it to the end. Did the speaker actually experience the first few years of A Music? Back then, Li Sheng was crazy to support Ying Changyou. At that time, there was only one male singer in A Music, Ying Changyou. He didn't have many songs, but he also played non-stop on TV and radio. Li Sheng gave him a share of everything ..."
8. "图文：应昌佑获新势力歌手奖发表获奖感言" (in Chinese). Sina Corporation. 2007-08-04. Archived from the original on 2022-08-28. Retrieved 2022-08-28.
  The article notes from Google Translate: "Ying Changyou won the New Power Singer Award and delivered his acceptance speech"
9. "黎明林建岳成立东亚唱片公司力捧应昌佑(图)" (in Chinese). Sina Corporation. 2004-07-29. Archived from the original on 2022-08-28. Retrieved 2022-08-28.
  The article notes from Google Translate: "In addition to holding a signing ceremony with Lin Jianyue on the spot, Leon also arranged for Ying Changyou, the first to support the newcomer, to meet with the media. ... Ying Changyou, the first popular newcomer, has had a song broadcast earlier. One of the songs "Do I Still Love You" in the movie "Big City and Small Matters" is his lead singer. Ying Changyou's background is not small. Her mother, Ran Xiaoling, is a popular singer of the generation."
10. Hui, Bolun 許栢倫 (2016-07-13). "【專訪】真毒男應昌佑：我不紅因為很少說話" (in Chinese). HK01. Archived from the original on 2022-08-28. Retrieved 2022-08-28.
  The article notes from Google Translate: "Most of his past works are related to bitter love, such as "Do I Still Love You", "How Can I Lose My Love", "It's My Bad", "Thank You for Lonely" and so on."
There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Charles Ying (traditional Chinese: 應昌佑; simplified Chinese: 应昌佑) to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".
Cunard (talk) 09:27, 28 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:19, 3 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per Cunard. It's perfectly possible for an article subject to still pass GNG (and thus keep their article) even if they fail N-subtopic criteria. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 23:26, 3 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Totally agree with both Cunard and Mellohi!, there is enough coverage in this article to support notability! As a native speaker, I can read the coverage. Gosh111131 (talk) 20:57, 4 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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