Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Characters in the Paper Mario series

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep‎. Arbitrarily0 ^(talk) 16:44, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Characters in the Paper Mario series[edit]

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Procedural nomination per WP:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 December 12#Characters in the Paper Mario series. The page was a redirect to Characters of the Mario franchise that did not find support as a good target at the RfD. The pre-redirect article content had been merged following a proposal at Talk:Characters in the Paper Mario series#Well, I guess here we go., and the RfD was against an outright deletion, but for discussion at AfD. Jay 💬 10:56, 19 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Video games-related deletion discussions. Jay 💬 10:56, 19 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Fictional elements and Lists. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 11:50, 19 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The Paper Mario characters have been discussed as a group - see here and here - and there are many not individually notable Paper Mario characters that got coverage in RS. Paper Mario is a large enough series that it could have its own character list. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 12:46, 19 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Zxcvbnm has found coverage proving notability by Wikipedia standards. Easier to have the characters in one list article, than in each individual game article. Dream Focus 03:55, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Unlike many other recently deleted listcrufts, this reads much better than them and is notable unlike those others. Dympies (talk) 17:42, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per the above, but primarily per ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ's comments. Aoba47 (talk) 21:38, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Merge to Characters of the Mario franchise. The sources that Zxcvbnm has brought would probably best be used in the series article. The current article has very few sources currently and all of them are used either generically or talk about characters on the main series list. Finally, what characters that are notable could easily be covered on the main series list. (Oinkers42) (talk) 01:46, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Have you read the article? Almost all of the characters are different in these series. Dream Focus 16:24, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Most of these characters do not need to be listed on the main list, the ones that do can easily be merged into the main list. (Oinkers42) (talk) 02:25, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
If a merge were to happen which ones would be moved over? Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 23:43, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - pinging those involved in the RFD. @QuicoleJR: @Panini!: @Thryduulf: @Crouch, Swale: @Lenticel: @ThomasO1989: @A smart kitten: @Tavix: (Oinkers42) (talk) 18:11, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - This article was restored without addressing any of the core issues. It is primarily original research and contains only four references. Merging into Characters of the Mario franchise would not work well, as 99% of these characters don't meet that article's inclusion criteria (appearing in more than 3 or 4 games, etc). A good chunk of these characters are relatively minor and the ones that aren't are more or less covered on the respective articles. --ThomasO1989 (talk) 18:22, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Zxvvbnm. -- Tavix ^(talk) 19:00, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
WP:PERNOM. (Oinkers42) (talk) 02:27, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Woah, shoot, when was this article made? Panini! • 🥪 20:46, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

17 August 2007. -- Tavix ^(talk) 18:14, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep needs work but there are several references out there. I don't even play the game but was able to get refs for some of the characters. --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:26, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep While the article could definitely use some work, the sources that Lenticel provided are definitely demonstrating notability. I'd change my vote to a strong keep if there were more sources going over the original characters found within Paper Mario, and The Thousand Year Door as I'm confident there's at least some references going over some of these guys. SuperSkaterDude45 (talk) 07:12, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep The series is big enough to justify having its own character page. While the page isnt in good shape, WP:DELETIONISNOTCLEANUP. I could see an arguement for WP:TNT being made. Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 19:51, 23 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep need works but notable enough. BlackShadowG (talk) 08:10, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
WP:ITSNOTABLE. (Oinkers42) (talk) 02:26, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - article in its current state is messy and unkempt, but with information added from Zxcvbnm, it seems to be worthy to pass WP:GNG. Videogameplayer99 (talk) 11:40, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.