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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. (non-administrative closure) --RyRy5 (talk) 23:31, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Cha-La Head-Cha-La[edit]

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Fails WP:MUSIC, unnotable single opening theme. Being a theme song of Dragon Ball Z does not make it notable. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 13:18, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

How so? It has won no awards and it has not placed highly on music charts. Its a typical, unnotable single. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 15:28, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Except that its been 1) covered by another band and 2) parodied in another work (Lucky Star). Surely that counts for something, no? I would think that that would make it a good bit more notable than the other Dragonball singles up for prod/afd. 208.245.87.2 (talk) 15:33, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. WP:MUSIC says songs "that have been performed independently by several notable artists, bands or groups are probably notable" and Aya Hirano and Animetal are notable performers. Maybe more artists have covered the song...--Nohansen (talk) 15:40, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep and Cleanup - Please accept my apologies I should have looked more indepthly at it. The merge above was because that artist is the one mentioned in big colourful letters down the right hand side. Does the article need all the album covers? I'd say it really only needs one album cover but, that is really an issue for the talkpage not here. Jasynnash2 (talk) 15:57, 6 June 2008
  • Keep - I am surprised to be voting as such on this topic but I'm convinced that this song passes WP:MUSIC and should not be dismissed as Dragon Ball Z fancruft. - House of Scandal (talk) 16:10, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep The song has also been covered by Fred Roettcher for the German DBZ dub, and is available on several CDs like here and here. That I still know major portions of the lyrics although I was never really into anime and suck at lyrics also makes me reluctant to claim that this song is non-notable. A few more sources wouldn't hurt the article, but I'd even be fine with the article in its current form if no more sources exist. – sgeureka t•c 16:20, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Um, more sources would imply it had some to begin with, which it does not. :P Redoing the song for a dub is not the same as a cover.-- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 16:23, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep as a theme song of a notable series even if wasn't also available on CDs would at least be valid as a search term and a redirect, although it seems that in the case an article may indeed be warranted, but I don't see any benefit in an outright deletion here. Best, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 16:33, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. The subject looks notable enough but we should vigorously remove any material which falls under the umbrella of original research. coccyx bloccyx(toccyx) 21:03, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep meets WP:MUSIC, but article needs a clean-up.  Esradekan Gibb  "Talk" 11:59, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment The two pieces of information on the article that will allow this article to pass WP:MUSIC are not cited so that it can be verified, one of which, the Lucky Star parody, seems little ORish to me. Unfortunately, because of this, I can not recommend keeping this article. --Farix (Talk) 16:46, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Per WP:NOR, primary sources (in this case, the show Lucky Star itself) can be used to "only make descriptive claims about the information found in the primary source, the accuracy and applicability of which is easily verifiable by any reasonable, educated person without specialist knowledge, and make no analytic, synthetic, interpretive, explanatory, or evaluative claims about the information found in the primary source." In other words, describing the contents of a show, and in this case a song they parody, does not constitute a breach of WP:NOR. 68.81.95.231 (talk) 21:48, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Being a theme song is not a reason to keep this article. The song ether needs to pass the general notability criteria, has been ranked on national or significant music charts such as Oricon, has won significant awards or honors, or has been performed independently by several notable artists, bands, or groups. (see WP:MUSIC) --Farix (Talk) 12:07, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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