Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cenyu Han

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The result was Draftify.. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:07, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Cenyu Han[edit]

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Teenage racing driver competing in minor events. A WP:BEFORE search brings up very little coverage, with this pair of routine announcements in Formula Scout being the only sources I can find which amount to anything more than passing mentions, such as this Portugese-language article which gives Han a single sentence of coverage, or numerous cases where Han's name appears only in results tables with no prose coverage. A user who can read Chinese may be able to find additional coverage which establishes notability, however. HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk) 20:43, 5 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Motorsport, and China. HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk) 20:43, 5 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Draft Some small signs of WP:SIGCOV but not enough to warrant a page yet. He currently isn’t notable enough, but could potentially be in the future, and by drafting the page, the page could be created easily in the future when he is more notable, since it’s currently a bit of WP:TOOSOON. DRYT.Motorsport (talk) 20:57, 6 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Weak draftify — All I could find was [1] and [2], everything in European outlets looks like simple WP:ROUTINE announcements. Someone who speaks Chinese might be able to tell us whether these two are WP:SIGCOV or not, and perhaps find more sources. For now I'm hesitantly leaning towards draftify–he's probably a case of WP:TOOSOON but there's decent WP:POTENTIAL to meet NSPORT in the near future, not because of talent but because of wealth (he's loaded). MSport1005 (talk) 13:38, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Draft WP:TOOSOON. Incubate. X-750 _{List of articles that I have screwed over} 02:44, 10 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources. Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Basic criteria says:
People are presumed notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject.
- If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability; trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources is not usually sufficient to establish notability.
1. Zhang, Yanling 张燕玲 (2017-08-28). Yang, Haicheng 杨海成 (ed.). "赛车场奏起中国国歌南京少年向"F1梦想"进发" [The Chinese national anthem is played at the racetrack, Nanjing teenager set off to the "F1 dream"]. Yangtse Evening Post (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2022-09-12. Retrieved 2022-09-12.
  This is an extensive profile of Cenyu Han. When translated from Chinese to English using Google Translate, the article is 1,619 words long. The article notes from Google Translate: "In 2013, Cenyu Han, who was only 8 years old, fell in love with the sport, which also surprised his father. Cenyu Han recalled that he and his father went to the professional track in Shanghai to experience it, and as a result, he became very interested. "It's a very special feeling, seeing a karting is like a long-lost friend." On the evening of August 25, Cenyu Han made such an image metaphor in an interview with a reporter from Ziniu News. Out of strong interest, whenever he had spare time, Cenyu Han begged his father to take him to the Shanghai go-kart track to practice. When Cenyu Han expressed his willingness to persevere, his father did not hesitate at all. He contacted Andrea, an Italian professional driver, who came to Shanghai twice a month to give Cenyu Han professional guidance."
2. Motorsport.com editorial staff (2021-03-09). "F4: Cenyu Han 'McQueen' rimane con VAR per il 2021" [F4: Cenyu Han 'McQueen' remains with VAR for 2021]. Motorsport.com (in Italian). Archived from the original on 2022-09-12. Retrieved 2022-09-12.
  The article notes from Google Translate: "Cenyu Han, nicknamed "McQueen", made his F4 debut in 2020. It was a year dedicated to learning and preparing for his second season in Formula 4. Before moving on to single-seaters, the McQueen of Nanjing (China) competed at a high level in the international karting scene. ... The sixteen-year-old "McQueen", who lives in Milan, is ready to continue his journey in single-seater racing. His main focus will be on the Italian F4 series, which will kick off on the Paul Ricard circuit of Le Castellet. In order to optimize track time, Han will also add selected rounds of the ADAC German F4 Championship to his schedule."
There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Cenyu Han (simplified Chinese: 韩岑宇; traditional Chinese: 韓岑宇) to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".
Cunard (talk) 08:13, 12 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:30, 12 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I interpreted the Italian Motorsport.com article bought up by Cunard as either being a reprinted press release (the Italian edition of Motorsport.com sometimes posts those) or an interview, which I am unsure would count as independent coverage under the WP:GNG. My Italian is extremely poor so I may be misunderstanding the content and context of that article, however. HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk) 01:23, 13 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I did searches for quotes from the Motorsport.com article and did not find any evidence that the article came from a press release or interview. The article says the author is "Motorsport.com editorial staff". Cunard (talk) 07:56, 13 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Draft The first source is excellent, but that's where it stops. The second one posted by Cunard is an obvious press release rearrangement (just like the coverage found in my searches and in the article) of a WP:ROUTINE event, all while heavily relying on PR quotes. He might meet relevant guidelines (including WP:NMOTORSPORT) in the future, but not now. Jovanmilic97 (talk) 23:32, 13 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Draftify and incubate WP:TOOSOON Bruxton (talk) 03:21, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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