Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Central Florida Panthers SC

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The result was redirect to National Premier Soccer League. Fenix down (talk) 06:30, 6 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Central Florida Panthers SC

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Does not meet notability criteria for football as they have not played for the national cup. All sources primary save one, and most coverage would likely be local and WP:ROUTINE. Walter Görlitz (talk) 20:59, 28 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. Walter Görlitz (talk) 20:59, 28 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Florida-related deletion discussions. Walter Görlitz (talk) 20:59, 28 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

~~Delete~~ NPSL teams can be notable, but this one doesn't appear to have received any qualifying secondary coverage in my before search. SportingFlyer T·C 21:10, 28 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect per GiantSnowman, below. SportingFlyer T·C 01:03, 5 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Just looking for clarification, I thought all teams in USL League Two and the National Premier Soccer League get articles through WP:NFOOTY from being national level leagues? --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 21:38, 28 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

NPSL clearly has a regional structure, even if it's all under the umbrella of one league. Also, the article appears to fail WP:GNG. SportingFlyer T·C 22:09, 28 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough. Just tried doing some research and couldn't find anything re: NPSL being a national level league so yeah, I'll go for Delete. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 17:01, 29 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment, but lean Keep: I disagree on the first point since there are other "national leagues" (USL League Two and the National Premier Soccer League) teams that haven't qualified for the U.S. Open Cup (or their league's national playoffs) but have pages. The sources part I do concur with, but there are warnings we can put on the top of the page for something like that rather than full deletion.

From what I've seen in regards to "national leagues", teams that play within those usually qualify for pages by default. I've always assumed this was based on the league's national status which separates it from something like the United Premier Soccer League (most of those teams don't have pages, and that's something I agree with) and that's why I made this. If this page is deleted, may I ask we try to make a clear rule on this matter since there are plenty of teams in both "Division 4" / National leagues that might fall into this category (EX: Cedar Stars Rush, Austin United FC, & Houston FC just to name a few). ColeTrain4EVER (talk) 22:11, 28 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I've always assumed "national level of the league structure" to mean a league that isn't split out into regions like this one, even though the season ends with a national cup tournament. Still, WP:GNG isn't met, which is more important. SportingFlyer T·C 01:44, 29 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

In delete discussions about three years ago, FOOTY project editors from the UK would usually say, "Fourth level? Keep." Then the tide changed and they started to say,, "they've played for the national cup? Keep." So I guess it depends on how it's being interpreted. If WP:OSE, or other teams exist at this level, we can take them to AfD later, but for now, does this club, or possibly, just the team, meet any notability criteria. I don't think they do, which is why I nominated. Walter Görlitz (talk) 02:10, 29 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If the team playing in the NPSL does not automatically qualify it, which was my original assumption, then I would agree as well. I will take this under advisement in the future. However, GiantSnowman's idea of turning the page into a re-direct to the league's main article might be better than outright deletion. I know that's what most USPL teams do. ColeTrain4EVER (talk) 18:24, 29 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm fine with the redirect. SportingFlyer T·C 18:47, 29 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Giant Snowman 11:30, 29 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to National Premier Soccer League as possible search term. Giant Snowman 11:32, 29 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to National Premier Soccer League, normally I'd argue keep, but with an almost complete lack of any coverage, no US Open Cup appearance, and not knowing how many years before they play 4th-tier soccer in Florida again ... then this team may not survive that long. No prejudice on recreating when there's some coverage. Nfitz (talk) 21:51, 1 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to National Premier Soccer League as a possible search term.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 23:15, 4 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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