Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Castel Savello

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The result was keep. Not certain this needed a relist last week, but regardless, clear consensus to keep. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 18:06, 7 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Castel Savello[edit]

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Not shown to meet WP:NBUILD. » Shadowowl | talk 12:05, 23 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Italy-related deletion discussions. Kpgj hpjm 12:12, 23 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. Kpgj hpjm 12:12, 23 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Notable ruins - destroyed circa 1435, and covered to present.[1][2][3][4]. Note that Castel Savelli seems to be the common name in English (but there are a number of variations here).Icewhiz (talk) 14:08, 23 July 2018 (UTC) If the AfD closes keep - I'll move the article after the close (moving articles during AfD is messy).Icewhiz (talk) 16:42, 23 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Keep -- A medieval castle in England would probably be notable. That should also apply in Italy. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:01, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Castles are generally notable historic buildings, even those that no longer exist. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:13, 25 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 13:13, 25 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Architecture-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 13:13, 25 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Other stuff exists......
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ∯WBG^converse 10:36, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Sourced and expanded, no problem meeting [[WP:NBUILD]]. @Icewhiz: Castel Savelli is, FWIW, also used in Italian sources. It is maybe not easy to determine which one get the most uses, and I would be fine with having the article at Castel Savelli with an {{R from alternative name}} – or would that be {{R from alternative spelling}}? – form Castel Savello. Sam Sailor 18:46, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. wp:ITSACASTLE (was a redlink, now is an essay) has been needed as a guideline to cover restaurants with "Castle" in their name, and anything else castle-like, as well as historic castles. --Doncram (talk) 19:49, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

See also Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gorteens Castle, which closed "Keep", because, well, it's a castle. Various editors said that more eloquently, with more detail, but still, it's a castle. --Doncram (talk) 04:31, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Doncram: A detached castle (definitely one of this sort) would typically meet WP:GEOLAND - as it is a populated place (in this case abandoned, with or without legal recognition as the case may be - however typically with). While the castle itself is also a collection of buildings (surrounded by a moat/wall/etc. with outlying buildings for peasants) - it is also a place of settlement typically housing hundreds of people.Icewhiz (talk) 05:07, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Satisfies GNG and GEOLAND. It is of exceptional historical importance. I agree that castles and other fortresses will generally satisfy GEOLAND. James500 (talk) 19:44, 6 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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