Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Caste system in Israel

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete (no redirect) as per consensus. El_C 07:29, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Caste system in Israel[edit]

Half this article already exists in kohen, and the other half is WP:OR. Bachrach44 01:00, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Judaism-related deletions. -- Em-jay-es 20:12, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Kohen, or delete, per nom.--Hús ö nd 01:09, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete poorly written and unreferenced. A redirect is okay with me, but I doubt many people will search for "Caste system in Israel."-- danntm ^T _C 02:03, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Nice title, but unlikely to be a search term. Kohen has anything anybody needs Green hornet 03:12, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Kohen. - Lex 03:38, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Do not redirect. The article is highly problematic for several reasons.

1. What is the meaning of "Israel" in the title? Ancient Israel, the northern kingdom (i.e. Samaria), modern Israel? The article seems to imply that it is biblical Israel, though it ends with a rather general statement about modern Judaism.

2. It never establishes whether the term caste system should be applied to biblical Israel. What sense of the term "caste" is valid here? Is this an anachronistic term introduced by western scholars based on their view of Indian culture?

3. Is their any established scholarly opinion (even a few would count) that the ancient biblical Levites could constitute a caste?

None of these issues are addressed in this article, and to do so would only further violate WP:OR. Please delete with prejudice.

Em-jay-es 06:32, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as OR unless there's some frantic citation, and even then what useful information there is should be merged to Kohen as per nom. Every time the author puts quotation marks around "caste system" in the article I cringed at the near-certainty that he or she decided on their own to make the analogy, rather than any published works -Markeer 12:55, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, not redirect per Bachrach44 and Em-jay-es. ←Humus sapiens ^ну? 20:59, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, do not redirect. Not a likely search term and not very true either. - CrazyRussian talk/email 21:23, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete this seems to be pure original research and personal opinion that covers territory addressed in true encyclopedic fashion at Kohen. Alansohn 05:44, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
delete the title itself is POV. Jon513 08:08, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete outright; no redirect. WP:OR. Eusebeus 17:45, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, not redirect per Bachrach44 and Em-jay-es, Tewfik^Talk 20:52, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. No redirect. Jayjg ^(talk) 01:05, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, no redirect. Article is simply a POV characterization of Kohen and Levite. Any reliably sourced content can be added to the perspectives in these articles, which already state that Reform Judaism and Reconstructionist Judaism have abolished these statuse because they regard them as a caste system. The article title is a clear violation of WP:NPOV and does not deserve a redirect in the same way an article on the Republican Party titled Fascism in the United States would violate WP:NPOV and would not deserve a redirect. --Shirahadasha 04:27, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom, Em-jay-es, and Shirahadasha. JoshuaZ 04:27, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. There may be a caste system in some parts of Judaism, but it is not the same as saying there is a caste system in Israel. That having been said, the caste system as it stood has not been totally applicable for 2000 years and therefore the title of the article is misleading. Valley2city 22:16, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, no redirect, this title implies something much different than what it discusses. The Kohen/Levite/Israelite tribal issue should be discussed on a Judaism page, but this is innappropriate. --יהושועEric 22:36, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.