Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cassidey

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The result was delete. joe decker ^talk 15:53, 9 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Cassidey[edit]

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Nominations no longer count so fails pornbio and gng Spartaz ^Humbug! 21:31, 30 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete fails both guidelines Rainbow unicorn (talk) 01:38, 31 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - Nothing to suggest better. SwisterTwister talk 08:07, 2 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - per the above Fails PORNBIO & GNG. –Davey2010^Talk 20:56, 3 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom's accurate assessment. Appearing in a non-notable music video isn't enough to establish notability. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 22:15, 4 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - enough coverage to support an article per the GNG with the trade journals and EW. Satisfies PORNBIO with her being featured in the notable and controversial music video along with the Adam Corolla show and the Debbie Does Dallas... Again documentary that was on Showtime.[1] Morbidthoughts (talk) 07:38, 5 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Per MorbidThoughts. She also has appeared on album covers under her real name. Link Wikiuser20102011 (talk) 15:19, 6 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Where is the reliable source linking the porn performer to that "real name"? That's the sort of credit that would usually be played up in porn industry bios, but it seems conspicuously absent. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 18:37, 6 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I don't believe she has publicly disclosed her real name, but it is out there although none could be considered a reliable source. It seems she did most of these in 2004-2005 when she was out of porn. Perhaps she didn't want to link that name to her porn work. It is definitely her on those album covers though. She has a very distinctive look. 1, 2, 3, 4. I guess it's moot point since this AFD will be ending in a matter of hours as a delete anyway. Wikiuser20102011 (talk) 19:34, 6 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep as above. And also 12x interwiki, very many nominations to awards. Notable. Nominator is Spartaz, again, he exposes dozens of porn-articles to AfD. This is destructive for Wikipedia, topic ban for Spartaz is necessary. Subtropical-man talk
(en-2) 20:49, 6 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Morbidthoughts. Enough sources to pass WP:GNG. Minor mainstream appearances for porn stars have been rejected as grounds for notability in the past, but Cassidey's appearance in the music video for "Sad Eyes" by Enrique Iglesias is not minor. She is prominently featured throughout that music video, satisfying WP:PORNBIO#3. Rebecca1990 (talk) 21:33, 6 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- presumably you are not asking us to accept original research that this appearance is a prominant or even featured because you have proper reliable sources to back up that statement? Right? And what happened to featured in multiple mainstream etc?? Spartaz ^Humbug! 21:50, 6 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 05:14, 7 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Note: I've recently edited the article in question here. The subject here has "been featured multiple times in notable mainstream media" - namely the TV version of Debbie Does Dallas ... Again and several times in Entertainment Weekly. It's also pretty obvious from the mainstream media coverage that the music video in question really only gained a lot of attention due to the "explicit" scenes that contained the subject here. Guy1890 (talk) 08:57, 10 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. Those "several times" stories in EW amount to one story regarding the upcoming release of a video and a brief Oops! Never mind! update/correction when the video's release was cancelled. All that the article (singular) says about Cassidy, aside from her "porn star" occupation, is that she was 19 and a "Slipknot fan". That might be an interesting factoid to add to a legitimate bio, but it's nowhere near enough to sustain BLP notability. It's hardly surprising that an actress with a non-starring role in a movie would also turn up in a documentary about the movie, but nobody's produced any sources showing she had a significant part in the documentary. And nobody's sourced the claim that the documentary itself is notable, which is necessary under PORNBIO. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 02:11, 15 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, this source says that "Cassidey" was one of the "'Vivid Girls'" that starred in the movie version of Debbie Does Dallas ... Again, and that same Wikipedia article on the movie also covers the TV documentary, which aired on Showtime and had "Cassidey" appearing in all seven episodes of that series. Guy1890 (talk) 06:47, 15 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete fails the current criteria for pornographic bios.John Pack Lambert (talk) 04:53, 17 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ansh 666 11:34, 17 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: How many times does this need to be relisted? sst✈^(discuss) 00:04, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

relist until it gets enough delete votes? Legacypac (talk) 07:00, 9 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, sst✈^(discuss) 00:04, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Fails GNG. Sourcing is a melange of IMDb and promotional porn industry sources for the most part. Carrite (talk) 16:11, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Despite the recent "improvements" to the article it still fails WP:PORNBIO, and I agree with Carrite that she does not have significant coverage in independent reliable sources. Mentions, unless overwhelming, don't add up to significance. --Bejnar (talk) 05:40, 9 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete cause does not meet industry specific notability guidelines. Legacypac (talk) 07:00, 9 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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