Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Carlos Borja (American soccer)

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The result was keep. Nom withdrawn after evidence that player passes WP:ATH. Black Kite 23:08, 8 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Carlos Borja (American soccer)

Carlos Borja appears to be an athlete who has never competed in a first-division professional league or represented his country at the national level. He does not seem to meet Wikipedia's notability guideline for athletes. faithless (^speak) 02:09, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, only playing in second division at the moment, and does not appear to meet WP:ATHLETE. If he ever gets a game with the main team of Chivas USA he'll meet the notability criteria, but that does not appear to be a foregone conclusion at this point. Lankiveil ^{(speak to me)} 04:32, 4 April 2009 (UTC).[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 00:00, 5 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football related deletions. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 18:02, 5 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comment CD Tapatio play in the Primera División A which is a fully professional league and Borja has played for them[1][2][3][4]. Nanonic (talk) 21:12, 5 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

When I nominated this article I was unaware that Primera División A was a fully professional league (my fault, I should have been more careful). Given the sources provided by Nanonic, it seems that Borja has appeared for them. I therefore have no objection to this AfD being closed. faithless (^speak) 23:22, 5 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep passes WP:ATHLETE. Article needs renaming though...Giant Snowman 17:40, 6 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per Wikipedia:BLP#Deletion - has been unsourced for months with no interest shown in sourcing it. Kevin (talk) 03:37, 7 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm confused by your citing Wikipedia:BLP#Deletion in your argument. Are you suggesting that there is unsourced contentious material in the article which needs to be deleted? I don't see anything contentious at all. If it is the lack of sources that concerns you, well, that's a reason to improve the article, not delete it. Best, faithless (^speak) 04:05, 7 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It is my opinion that unsourced BLPs should not exist, and that if there is no sign of interest sourcing it, then it should be deleted. I do improve articles where I have the knowledge to do so, however there are 30000+ unsourced BLPs, and only a small number of editors fixing them. Kevin (talk) 04:26, 7 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - four refs added to confirm he has played regularly for Tapatio -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:04, 7 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keepper new evidence.GauchoDude (talk) 19:13, 7 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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