Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Canisius College, Nijmegen

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy keep. Satisfies WP:SKCRIT #1. Please review WP:BEFORE prior to nominating articles for deletion. The article need not be deleted in order to rewrite it. TheSandDoctor ^Talk 15:57, 2 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Canisius College, Nijmegen[edit]

[Hide this box] New to Articles for deletion (AfD)? Read these primers!

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Yes, this school exist. But this article is so badly translated that it is better to remove it and start from scratch (WP:TNT). Facts are mentioned that are not in the sources and even personal names are translated. Partly nonsense. The Banner talk 19:08, 24 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Netherlands-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 19:11, 24 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 19:11, 24 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 19:11, 24 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Education-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 19:11, 24 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. based on the notable graduates, a very significant school. I do not see what is wrong with the English version: the personal names are in the forms used in the enWP, just as they should be. Maybe it has been fixed sincethe nomination. DGG ( talk ) 17:02, 26 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you for admitting that you have absolutely no clue about the Dutch language what makes you unable to see the mess. The Banner talk 18:53, 26 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comment WP:TNT is an essay and does not represent a community consensus. — BillHPike (talk, contribs) 20:23, 26 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- And because of that you want to keep an absolutely tragic article? Houston, we have a problem... The Banner talk 20:29, 26 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  - We have a philosophical disagreement. You support WP:TNT and I support WP:Deletion is not cleanup. Until the community reaches a consensus, citations to either essay should be given minimal weight in deletion discussions. — BillHPike (talk, contribs) 22:28, 26 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    - I support the removal of trash, you seem to prefer keeping it. When you call that a philosophical disagreement, be my guest. I call it undermining of the reliability of the encyclopedia. The Banner talk 22:52, 26 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Banner, if you think the translation is trash, be WP:BOLD and cut it to one sentence. Deletion seems extreme given its age and available sources.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 23:12, 27 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I do not like the idea of being accused of vandalism by people who can not judge the quality of the translation. So I await community consensus to do that. The Banner talk 07:42, 28 September 2018 (UTC) About the trash: there is no football player named "Jay-Roy Cave"". But there is a player named Jay-Roy Grot.[reply]

Who has accused you of vandalism? --Andreas Philopater (talk) 03:34, 30 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Nobody yet. That is why my first choice still is complete removal under WP:TNT. But stubifying it, with a consensus to do so, is a worthy alternative. The Banner talk 09:38, 30 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment there seems to be SIGCOV in Dutch, in Gnews and Gbooks. For example this article, with good text and photos. The confusing part is that the article talks about the college building being used as the offices for an ad agency. Dutch speakers?ThatMontrealIP (talk) 22:51, 27 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- This is about the former school building. The Banner talk 23:05, 27 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Additional coverage here, here, here, here, book coverage here, here, here and finally this book entry, which mentions an archival semi-amateur film made about the college. So, keep.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 23:06, 27 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

My concern was not the notability but the very poor translation, turning the article into nonsense on points. The Banner talk 07:37, 28 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

If you speak Dutch, then why not just delete the bad parts with the comment "deleting bad translation"?ThatMontrealIP (talk) 06:22, 30 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

That is identical to stubifying the article... The Banner talk 09:38, 30 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Clear keep. --Andreas Philopater (talk) 00:16, 28 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. per DGG .Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 05:02, 2 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.