Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Camping Food

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. There is no appetite for deletion here. Discussions on how to improve the article and whether the article should be redirected or merged or renamed should continue on the article's talk page. --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 20:05, 4 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Camping Food[edit]

Reads like a magazine article; WP:NOT for guides and how-to articles. KurtRaschke (talk) 23:29, 23 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Mild KEEP - With a bit of a re-write and some research it could be a good article. Trevor Marron (talk) 00:48, 24 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Needs work but it's already a useful article. Looie496 (talk) 02:38, 24 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Needs more work, but once Looie is done with it, it's going to be awesome. ChildofMidnight (talk) 16:53, 24 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Let's look at what we have here. A brand new editor creates an article as a stub. It is immediately converted to a redirect, with no attempt to discuss with the creator. The creator greatly expands the article. It is then immediately AfD'ed, again with no attempt to discuss with the creator beyond templating the talk page. This is just about as bitey as you can get. Looie496 (talk) 17:27, 24 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. WP:NOT and WP:OR jump up and scream at me. This is a largely unsourced and rambling essay, covering everything from the advantages of rubbing your pan with oil for easy soot removal to "Many campers feel their trip is incomplete without a campfire". I mean, seriously.... Yintaɳ 14:51, 25 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, –Juliancolton | ^Talk 00:37, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep There are plenty of books and magazine articles to establish notability and to verify an article. Here is a section of an article that could help: Ultralight_backpacking#Food. I am concerned though of an overlap with Outdoor cooking. Drawn Some (talk) 01:40, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Strong keep With work, this article can provide information (with refs) about an interesting aspect of a form of recreation. I've had relatives ask me "What do you eat out there?" I resist saying "Oh, pine nuts and grubs." Ray Jardine, BSOA, and others have written on this subject. Could the overlap be addressed by a hatnote? Marcia Wright (talk) 16:33, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Outdoor cooking. Yes, there have been books written about the subject. However, while we already have a serviceable article about cooking outdoors, this article seems redundant. Any relevant information could simply be transposed or re-written into one single article. JogCon (talk) 17:57, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect as per JogCon. Good suggestion. Fences and windows (talk) 04:19, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect I concur with JogCon and Fences. Much of the material in this article is indeed covered on Outdoor cooking and the balance of the Camping food article can be used to flesh out Outdoor cooking. Really don't want to bite the creator. I assume s/he had not seen the Outdoor cooking article and s/he made a good effort with this article. Geoff ^T ^C 00:30, 2 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Outdoor cooking is almost entirely about cooking techniques. The current article is mainly about foods, so they don't overlap much as currently written. There is definitely valuable content here, although it needs sources. Several dozen books have been written about backpacking food, so sources are certainly available, but I don't have any on hand at the moment. If anything is done with this article that destroys the history, please userify it to my user space first, so that whoever wants to improve doesn't have to start from scratch. Looie496 (talk) 01:23, 2 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Evidently notable. Colonel Warden (talk) 13:33, 3 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Possibly rename to survival foods, since there is a strong overlap between camping and survival/storable foods. Gigs (talk) 19:52, 3 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Outdoor Cooking is pretty much a a how-to, while Camping Food is an article about foodstuffs one might consider for their utility, portability and durability, when camping, hiking or surviving in-the-field. Its a very young article about a notable subject and is undergoing a continuing process or expansion and sourcing. It improves the project to allow this process to continue. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 20:10, 3 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep AFD is not for cleanup. It could be improved, but there is no reason to delete it. And it is totally different subject wise from Outdoor cooking, so I'm against any merge. List of types of food commonly found/used on a camping trip, might be a better name for the article. Dream Focus 02:00, 4 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.