Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Camp Rockmont for Boys

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Valoem ^talk ^contrib 19:02, 15 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Camp Rockmont for Boys[edit]

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No evidence of notability. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:05, 5 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of North Carolina-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 13:09, 6 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 13:09, 6 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. As was explained when the nominator's prod notice was removed[1], this is an NRHP-listed property, listed as "Black Mountain College Historic District" but known as Camp Rockmont since the 1950s. [2][3] The camp is described in one source as "the largest private boys camp in the Southeast" [4] and is also the site of the Lake Eden Arts Festival [5] as well as other events (e.g. [6][7][8]; many more can be seen via searches). Merger of this article and the Black Mountain College article might be appropriate, but deletion is not. --Arxiloxos (talk) 14:58, 6 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- You said there that Black Mountain College is NRHP listed, not this camp. WP:NOTINHERITED applies. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:52, 9 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  - No, that's wrong. The NRHP listing is listed as the "Black Mountain College Historic District", with "Camp Rockmont" listed as the alternative common name for the registered property.[9] The camp has occupied this property for 50 years. It's part of the history of the property. --Arxiloxos (talk) 21:04, 9 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    - It is most certainly not wrong to point out that "you said there that Black Mountain College is NRHP listed, not this camp". In fact the exact words you used were " This is relevant to NRHP-listed Black Mountain College...". And indeed the NRHP listing of "Black Mountain College Historic District" seems to be adequately catered for by our article Black Mountain College, which includes the NRHP listing (ref 82001281) in its infobox. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:15, 9 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Nominator appears to be going through a list or category of summer camps and nominating them all for deletion, indiscriminately. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Surprise Lake Camp for example, where a summer camp that really obviously meets wp:GNG is also nominated for deletion. And this also seems to be an egregious nomination. I assume wp:BEFORE standard was not met for this Camp Rockmont for Boys article. I voted Keep also for similar reason at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Camp Ondessonk and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falling Creek Camp and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Forest Lake Camp, too. --do ncr am 20:36, 9 May 2014 (UTC) (stricken, per Pigsonthewing request at my Talk page} --doncram 22:38, 10 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- I trust that whoever closes this AfD will take into account your partisan canvassing. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:49, 9 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  - Absolute nonsense. Please do try to explain where there was any "canvassing" at all. In several AFDs on summer camps that Pigsonthewings has nominated, i have pointed to other ongoing AFDs about summer camps, pointing out some relatedness between the AFDs. This seems appropriate, there is no canvassing to user pages or to any Wikiprojects. Nonsense. --do ncr am 00:12, 10 May 2014 (UTC) (stricken, per Pigsonthewing request at my Talk page} --do ncr am 22:38, 10 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep NRHP listed camp. Candleabracadabra (talk) 22:45, 10 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- As noted above: the NRHP listing is of "Black Mountain College Historic District"; and seems to be adequately catered for by our article Black Mountain College, which includes the NRHP listing (ref 82001281) in its infobox. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:22, 12 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  - The article on the college doesn't cover any of the Lake Eden site's history after 1956, so it's obviously inadequate. I don't think merging the two subjects makes much sense either. Candleabracadabra (talk) 12:52, 12 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    - If The article on the college doesn't cover any of the Lake Eden site's history, perhaps that's because it's not that significant to the site's NRHP listing; or at all. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:24, 12 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep NRHP listed camp as well as plenty of coverage demonstrating passing WP:GNG. It appears the nom is just nominating camps from a list without any regard to WP:BEFORE. --Oakshade (talk) 06:18, 12 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- As noted above: the NRHP listing is of "Black Mountain College Historic District"; and seems to be adequately catered for by our article Black Mountain College, which includes the NRHP listing (ref 82001281) in its infobox. You again need to be reminded that WP:AGF has not been suspended. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:22, 12 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, as every commenter above shows that the nominating statement " no evidence of notability", was incorrect. If nominating statement had been correct, it would be a valid ground for deletion--Milowent • ^hasspoken 03:38, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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