Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Camellia Institute of Engineering

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The result was redirect to Camellia Institute of Technology. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 01:53, 27 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Camellia Institute of Engineering

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Unferenced, fails WP:NORG. Not even a website linked, WP:BEFORE reveals mainly references for (not much better) Camellia Institute of Engineering & Technology. While this probably not a WP:HOAX (can anyone find their homepage?), and probably not just a merge to the "& Technology", there is no indication this is a properly accredited school (WP:NSCHOOL). Finally, WP:NOTYELLOWPAGES. Also remember [1] suggests all "Camellia" schools (in addition to the nominated one and the other listed, those would be Camellia Institute of Technology, Camellia Institute of Technology & Managemen and Camellia School of Engineering & Technology) are part of the same holding company, [2] Camellia Group. Perhaps a merge would be an option. PS. Before you post that 'all schools/universities are notable per WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES', please note that we need at least a proof that such institutions are "independently accredited degree-awarding institutions". What I am worried here is that Wikipedia can be used as a vehicle to promote 'fake schools', ones which are not accredited properly (see Diploma mill and related concepts - it is difficult to extent WP:AGF to such articles given such context). That of course is a worry on top of the regular 'this is a WP:CORPSPAM that fails WP:NORG. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 05:22, 5 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 05:39, 5 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 05:40, 5 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Education-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 05:40, 5 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect. Actually appears to be Camellia Institute of Technology, which is an accredited, degree-awarding institution. They seem to be in the same place and do the same thing, so I think CIE almost certainly is CIT. CIT website and AICTE accreditation. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:21, 5 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

*Comment. The list of associated schools in the references for Camellia Institute of Technology lists Camellia Institute of Technology, Camellia Institute of Engineering and Technology, and Camellia Institute of Technology and Management as separate entities, in separate locations, with separate course offerings. If you look at the location cited for CIE on Google Maps, it shows an arrow for Camellia Institute of Engineering and Technology, so I think that's Camellia Institute of Engineering, and an entirely separate school from Camellia Institute of Technology. So, if we're keeping Camellia Institute of Technology, then I think we keep Camellia Institute of Engineering, but rename to Camellia Institute of Engineering and Technology?BubbaJoe123456 (talk) 00:15, 6 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

- No, that's Camellia Institute of Engineering & Technology. It's in a completely different place. -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:57, 6 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  - You're entirely right, my mistake. Too many browser windows open. Apologies.BubbaJoe123456 (talk) 15:02, 6 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 07:20, 12 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Randykitty (talk) 18:22, 19 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Merge and redirect to Camellia Institute of Technology per Necrothesp. bd2412 T 20:26, 26 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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