Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Calleva

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep per absence of delete preferences. Non-admin closure by Skomorokh 02:55, 29 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Calleva

Self-promoting (advertising) article that does not assert notability. Was speedy declined, but article does not pass WP:N (or any of its specific categories). No relevant inter-Wiki links (all are to locations or activities). Google search only really brings up business listings. Booglamay (talk) - 21:45, 23 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - author's username is a violation of username policy (for promotion) and a related article (Camp Calleva) was recently speedied. To clarify the above - the only relevant sections to the article (that don't merely list what the company offers or where they're based) is a history section - nothing of which shows notability. Booglamay (talk) - 21:48, 23 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Maryland-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp | talk to me 22:02, 23 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I added some references. I think the following one is quite helpful: Chadwick, Melissa A. (Wednesday, July 26, 2006). "Calleva puts a little adventure in summer. Kids let loose and relax as they learn at Poolesville camp". The Gazette (Gaithersburg, MD). Retrieved 2008-07-23. {{cite news}}: Check date values in: |date= (help); Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= (help) -- Eastmain (talk) 22:34, 23 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No view on article's merits, but there is a disambiguation problem: Calleva should refer to Calleva Atrebatum, the Roman town now called Silchester. Calleva would be a short form of its name. If retained rename to Calleva, Maryland or Calleva (summer camp) or whatever it is. The present article has masses of red links, most of which probably need converting back to plain text. Peterkingiron (talk) 00:18, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not a big deal. If the article is deleted, it can become a redirect. If it's kept, a hatnote can be added. --brew crewer (yada, yada) 03:51, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I created the article as a redirect to Silchester Roman Town (which now redirects to Calleva Atrebatum). "Atrebatum" just clarifies whose territory it's in, so it's perfectly reasonable to refer to it simply as "Calleva" (like you don't have to say "Milton Keynes, Buckinghamshire" or "Dallas, Texas" every time you refer to Milton Keyes or Dallas. For that reason the article Calleva should at least direct the reader to the Calleva Atrebatum article. If this summer camp is notable then it should either have a hatnote pointing to Calleva Atrebatum, or be a disambig page pointing to Calleva Atrebatum, the renamed article about the summer camp, and any other meanings that may turn up. If the summer camp is not notable then it should redirect to Calleva Atrebatum. Any of those three options would be better than deletion. --Nicknack009 (talk) 11:42, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - I'd brought this up on the article's talk page. I'd even said that if this company is notable then a redirect won't be necessary. Based on the references given by Eastmain, I'd be happy if this article stayed. but - like Peterkingiron I'd propose the content of this page to be moved elsewhere and this one be made a redirect. Booglamay (talk) - 13:32, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.