Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/CJWE-FM

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. MBisanz ^talk 00:54, 28 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

CJWE-FM[edit]

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The final (thankfully) set of low power tourist information stations of no reliably sourceable notability; the only remaining stragglers after this are a couple of stations which clear the bar for different reasons (i.e. they weren't always just TIS stations, but offered more conventionally NMEDIA-passing program formats at other times in their histories.) However, WP:NMEDIA explicitly deprecates TIS stations as not inherently notable, except in the rare instance that they actually pass WP:GNG. We formerly had a practice of exempting Canadian TIS stations from getting deleted on that basis, because they had to possess CRTC licenses just like any other radio station and were thus sourceable to at least some of the same types of sources that we permit in other radio station articles -- but as of 2013, the CRTC revised its policies and TIS stations are now exempt from having to have licenses at all anymore. As a result, it is no longer verifiable whether any of these stations is still operational or not: reliable media sources don't cover them and the CRTC doesn't have to issue license renewals, so we have no way to determine whether any of these is still operating, if it went defunct then when or why, or anything else about it. And if we can't verify it anymore, then we can't keep it anymore. Bearcat (talk) 16:16, 20 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note that there's also one special case here: following deletion, CKEY-FM will need to be recreated as a redirect to CFLZ-FM, as it was that station's call sign for fully 20 years before being dropped and then picked up by the unrelated and non-notable TIS station described by this version of the article. However, as there's no value in maintaining the TIS station's edit history, the page should be deleted and then recreated as a redirect, rather than simply being redirected immediately, which is why I'm still including it in this batch rather than handling it separately. Bearcat (talk) 16:20, 20 March 2017 (UTC) Update: On the basis of evidence located by the first commenter below, I'm withdrawing CKEY-FM from this discussion as it requires an immediate repair of an improper cut-and-paste move — and since the histmerge will naturally suppress the CKEY-Barrie edits anyway, there's really very little point in restoring them again afterward just to put them back through a process that'll merely get them redeleted again within days. Bearcat (talk) 04:36, 21 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 16:20, 20 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Radio-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 16:20, 20 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete all; there's no presumption of notability for tourist information stations, licensed or not, and it seems unlikely that any of these stations will ever attain the coverage in reliable sources to meet the general notability guideline (much less be independently notable of the entities these stations exist to serve or promote), much less to verify whether they are still operating. (Even then, would there be enough to get any of these articles out of the permastub category all of these TIS station articles more-or-less fall under?). I must, however, add to the special circumstances regarding CKEY-FM: its revisions prior to January 19, 2012 correspond to the station now known as CFLZ-FM, and Webfan29 (talk · contribs) appears to have performed a cut-and-paste move of the CKEY-FM article as it existed before then to CFLZ-FM on that day (the same user then replaced the resulting redirect in 2013 with the present article for the unrelated TIS station). As a result, while I agree that the edit history for the TIS station (i.e., all edits to CKEY-FM since March 1, 2013) should go, the revisions up to and including this one must be retained and in fact merged into the CFLZ-FM edit history. --WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 02:40, 21 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ay-yi-yi, I didn't notice all of that. On that basis, I'm going to withdraw CKEY from this discussion and do an immediate cut-and-paste repair. Bearcat (talk) 04:36, 21 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.