Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Buffy the Vampire Slayer DVDs (2nd nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. There was a very clear consensus for the article to be kept though, in some cases, with the suggestion that the page should be merged into appropriate articles. If any editor wishes to pursue the question of the page being merged then that should be raised on the talk page as a post-AFD editorial matter. (Non-admin closure.) BlueValour (talk) 23:23, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Buffy the Vampire Slayer DVDs

NUnnotable listing of the individual DVDs. Wikipedia is not a sales catalog and such excessive detail on the DVD releases of this series are wholly inappropriate and excessive. The main article already has a useful, and appropriate summary of DVD releases in table form with the relevant information. AnmaFinotera (talk) 01:13, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. —AnmaFinotera (talk) 01:14, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
• Weak Delete: It does sound like an advertisement. Rgoodermote  03:14, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
• Keep a listing of notable DVDs and relevant details for anyone interested in researching popular culture and DVD sales and information. Even in a worst case scenario we would redirect/merge without deleting, but that's not an AfD issue. Best, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 04:57, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
• Keep, no reason to exclude this detail. Everyking (talk) 05:35, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
• merge if actually important to the Buffy (tv series) article as that is where most of the television articles list DVD releases and seems like a good "framework" to use. Jasynnash2 (talk) 07:54, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
  • This is far too much info to go in the main Buffy article. If we're going to have the info, it needs to be in a separate article. Everyking (talk) 07:57, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
• Keep, and don't propose a merge unless you plan to do it yourself (with the consent of the target article's editors). Potatoswatter (talk) 08:25, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
• Weak keep. Although I don't see the point myself, the fact there's a whole category of articles suggests this is considered a viable topic for an article. And WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS probably doesn't apply since Buffy is a more notable program/DVD franchise than many of the shows in the category with similar articles. 23skidoo (talk) 18:11, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

• That category only has a handful of articles, in large part because many others have already been deleted. Its interesting that somehow because its "Buffy" somehow its all keeps, but on all the others its rapid fire deletes. Buffy's notability doesn't convey to the DVD releases, which are unnotable and do not need to have sales catalog type listings to receive sufficient coverage. This is seriously undue weight on a minor aspect of the series. AnmaFinotera (talk) 18:34, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

• DVDs receive reviews in their own right (DVDs have features beyond just episodes) and thus can be sufficiently sourced. Best, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 19:30, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

• Sourcing does not equal notability, but you say keep on any and everything that goes through AfD, so I don't expect you to argue otherwise. AnmaFinotera (talk) 19:45, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

• Coverage in multiple reliable sources does indicate notability. Anyway, while we may have disagreed in other Buffy related articles you nominated for deletion, such as Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Buffy the Vampire Slayer in popular culture, I hardly "say keep on any and everything that goes through AfD," considering that I argued to delete in ALL of the following and several more: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Adult-child sex (2nd nomination), Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alhaji sani labaran, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Butt harp, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Funeral For My Chemical Valentine, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Homosexuality in Kingdom Hearts, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Insane Pro Wrestling, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Interdenominational Church of Huberianism (Apostolic), Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jieming Unit, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Regular coffee for a regular guy, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/W.I.T.C.H. The Movie: The Ultimate War, Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Screambox 2, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joe Smith (musician)‎, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Best of Sonic the Hedgehog‎, etc. I hope that you have argued to keep at least as many articles as I have argued to delete, but in any event our arguing "record" is not really relevant to the discussion. Best, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 20:27, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

• Keep or merge Merge possibly with the articles for each season of the series? Gary King (talk) 19:29, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
• Keep. Definitely too much detail (we needn't know the length of a featurette, for instance) but with a lot of copyediting, would make a good list. Definitely salvageable. weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 20:14, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

A good list is already in Buffy the Vampire Slayer, why have it in two places and what makes it worth having in its own article instead of just leaving in the main or merging into the episode list? AnmaFinotera (talk) 20:18, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

• I see some mergeable bits in "Differences between versions" and "Collections" that could go into Buffy_the_Vampire_Slayer_(TV_series)#DVD_releases, otherwise, this is just sales-catalogue-y info. – sgeureka ^t•c 08:50, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.