Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bubble Bobble Revolution

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The result of the debate was no consensus. Fernando Rizo T/C 20:14, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

Bubble Bobble Revolution

Vaporware. Wikipedia is not a crystal ball Hamster Sandwich 23:59, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

• Comment I wouldn't mind if this nomination were withdrawn at this point. Please see the talk page of this VfD. Hamster Sandwich 21:28, 12 August 2005 (UTC)
  • While a delete may be justified on other grounds, there is no doubt that this game is going to come out, similar to the 2008 Presidential elections example. Brownman40 00:08, 12 August 2005 (UTC)
• Keep Please look at the definition of Vaporware given in its WP article. "software or hardware which is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge, either with or without a protracted development cycle. The term implies deception, or at least a negligent degree of optimism" Unless you have some kind of insider info and you know for sure this wom't be released, it isn't vaporware. Almost certain to be released, no reason to delete. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 00:31, August 12, 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment I suppose you have to read past the first paragraph of the Vapourware article to get to the meaning of the claim. But I did look, and feel my claim is satisfied by sections of that article. What I really meant was, "when they release it, it might be notable." That hasn't happened yet. When and if the game is released, should be no problem getting its article, nes pas? Hamster Sandwich 00:40, 12 August 2005 (UTC)
• Don't know, seems notable/verifiable. Probably a {{future product}} would be more appropriate. Keep. Flowerparty ^talk 01:47, 12 August 2005 (UTC)
• Weak delete. It's definitely not vaporware and is notable, but WP:NOT stipulates that this article should only exist if "planning or preparation for the event is already in progress and the preparation itself merits encyclopedic inclusion," which I don't think it is. -D. Wu 05:36, 12 August 2005 (UTC)
• Keep, verfiable. Kappa 08:33, 12 August 2005 (UTC)
• Keep per Starblind. The "crystal ball" rule is to weed out unverifiable speculation which this is not. Sjakkalle (Check!) 09:40, 12 August 2005 (UTC)
• Keep per Starblind/Sjakkalle. Almafeta 11:20, 12 August 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. This is yet another case where we give more slack to a computer/videogame related topic than we would to, say, a band. If this were an album being released by a band, everyone would vote delete because Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. I'm voting delete to be consistent. Nandesuka 11:42, 12 August 2005 (UTC)
  • Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Catch Without Arms (album) garnered overwhelming keep consensus. Since then I have become more liberal in my dealings with future releases which are quite certain to come. Sjakkalle (Check!) 11:44, 12 August 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep. Notable. See also Smile (album). The article existed 19 months before the album was released. That's an especially notable exception to the rule, but non-releasage is not sufficient criteria for deletion. -- Plutor 13:10, 12 August 2005 (UTC)
• Weak Delete I think that even if it does actually get released in October, it won't be particularly notable. Thus far, they have only released a single screen-shot, so it reeks of vapor to me. Note that the links to the developer and both publishers are actually red links, not blue. (Dreams is not about a company named Dreams, Rising Star is not about Rising Star Games and Marvelous doesn't exist, though they meant the equally non-existent Marvelous Interactive.) That is to say, the people who plan on making and releasing the game may not be notable AND they didn't even issue a press release to say they planned on any activity, just a screen shot. --Habap 17:13, 12 August 2005 (UTC)
• Keep, possibly missing a release date does not always define vaporware. Otherwise you might as well rename the term to "Nintendo" because they're constantly optimistic on their first release date. To User:Habap, the game was just recently unveiled as recently as July 29, 2005 and at the time only released a single screenshot. The game is set for an October release in Europe. See this recent report by IGN. K1Bond007 17:46, August 12, 2005 (UTC)
  • Why post the link here instead of in the article, where it might be found more easily by people searching Wikipedia? I've added it. --Habap 17:52, 12 August 2005 (UTC)
    • Never really even crossed my mind, to be honest :) K1Bond007 06:34, August 13, 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. As sure to come out. →ubεr nεmo→ ^lóquï 21:09, August 12, 2005 (UTC)
• Delete and add when it get actually released. SW development is very volatile. Pavel Vozenilek 21:59, 12 August 2005 (UTC)
• Delete nn until release at the very earliest. The point made above about bands is pertinent. -Splash 02:05, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
• Keep - nomination criteria both proved incorrect. Not vaporware and it's verifiable. --Celestianpower ^hab 13:20, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
• Strong Keep. Nominator needs to learn what is vaporware. -- A Link to the Past 19:27, August 15, 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. This is fine. --rural August 16, 2005
• Keep. I think notability is irrelivant. Certainly the planet Manaan in Star Wars is less notable than say the singer Tom Rush. the latter page was just created recently. As long as the article is clear that the game is not yet released it should be ok.69.160.163.253 12:52, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. NN Consider if it is actually released.--Maustrauser 12:55, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

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