Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brooke Barrettsmith
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 18:21, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
Brooke Barrettsmith[edit]
[Hide this box] New to Articles for deletion (AfD)? Read these primers!
- Brooke Barrettsmith (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)
- (Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
Fails WP:NSINGER; PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 01:02, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians, Television, and Illinois. Bgsu98 (Talk) 01:02, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
- Strong Keep: Does not fail WP:NSINGER. Her album charted on Billboard. --Jpcase (talk) 01:18, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
- Absolutely. Any placement on Billboard should generally be considered enough to establish notability. WP:NSINGER simply says that notability is shown if an artist "Has had a single or album on any country's national music chart." It doesn't say that the single or album has to reach an especially high point on the chart. --Jpcase (talk) 01:36, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
- And even those Billboard subcharts qualify? I read through WP:BILLBOARDCHARTS, but all of the different iterations of Billboard charts were confusing. Bgsu98 (Talk) 01:41, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
- Yeah, I'm not aware of any Billboard chart that wouldn't be considered a major chart for notability purposes. Barrettsmith's album charted on the Top Christian Albums chart, which certainly qualifies. It apparently also charted on the Heatseekers chart, (though her Billboard page doesn't seem to be online anymore, and unfortunately, it seems that the Way Back Machine only archived the page showing her placement on the Christian chart). --Jpcase (talk) 01:51, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
- Hi all, Brooke here!
- I meet several criteria. Here they are by number:
- Criterion 1
- a) My self-titled album release on Essential/Provident/Sony BMG in 2008 - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006P8JUU2/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3T96CHX2AB1K3&keywords=brooke+barrettsmith&qid=1684802487&sprefix=%2Caps%2C96&sr=8-1
- b) Several notable print publications. I can find more if you'd like me to dive deeper into my storage space - https://bbarrettsmith.wixsite.com/bb-photos
- Criterion 2
- a) Billboard's Top Christian Album chart
- b) Billboard's Heatseekers Albums chart
- (Maybe call Provident for a backdated resource. My former A&R rep is still there and he can confirm.)
- Criterion 4
- a) Opening act on Pillar's national tour "For the Love of the Game" in 2008. Many resources online covered this tour. Here's one - https://www.jesusfreakhideout.com/news/2008/01/28.PILLAR%20ANNOUNCES%20FOR%20THE%20LOVE%20OF%20THE%20GAME%20TOUR%20DATES.asp
- b) Opening act on BarlowGirl's national tour "Million Voices Tour" in 2008. Many resources online covered this tour. Here's one - https://www.jesusfreakhideout.com/news/2008/09/03.BarlowGirl%20To%20Release%20First%20Holiday%20Project%20Home%20For%20Christmas.asp
- Criterion 11
- a) I was in rotation on several Christian radio stations in 2008-2010 across the country. 90.1 WMBI, K-Love stations, The Fish stations, etc. (Most cities we toured through played my music on rotation, if only for that season. Please call them or Provident for a backlog.) Positivelynonegatives (talk) 00:58, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
- Here's the Billboard Top Heatseekers chart link. I peaked at number 40: https://books.google.com/books?id=EhQEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA49&dq=billboard+barrettsmith&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjl1fiFoor_AhXakYkEHYwOBPYQ6AF6BAgKEAI#v=onepage&q=billboard%20barrettsmith&f=false Positivelynonegatives (talk) 01:18, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
- Yeah, I'm not aware of any Billboard chart that wouldn't be considered a major chart for notability purposes. Barrettsmith's album charted on the Top Christian Albums chart, which certainly qualifies. It apparently also charted on the Heatseekers chart, (though her Billboard page doesn't seem to be online anymore, and unfortunately, it seems that the Way Back Machine only archived the page showing her placement on the Christian chart). --Jpcase (talk) 01:51, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
- And even those Billboard subcharts qualify? I read through WP:BILLBOARDCHARTS, but all of the different iterations of Billboard charts were confusing. Bgsu98 (Talk) 01:41, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
- Absolutely. Any placement on Billboard should generally be considered enough to establish notability. WP:NSINGER simply says that notability is shown if an artist "Has had a single or album on any country's national music chart." It doesn't say that the single or album has to reach an especially high point on the chart. --Jpcase (talk) 01:36, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Illinois-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 08:21, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
- Keep. Charted on Billboard, so WP:NSINGER is fulfilled. 23:52, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
- Keep: In addition to the above, she has been profiled by the Arlington Heights Daily Herald ("Faith leads Spring Grove woman into limelight") and had her album reviewed by the Great Falls Tribune ("Barrettsmith's new album offers clean, but forgettable, tunes"); there is also a capsule (editorial, not user-generated) review in All Music Guide. Being on a reality show does not automatically fail WP:NSINGER or override WP:GNG. Gnomingstuff (talk) 13:17, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
- Keep as charted on a Billboard chart and also has christian music reliable sources coverage Atlantic306 (talk) 21:26, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.