Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brice W. Goldsborough

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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 20:59, 21 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Brice W. Goldsborough[edit]

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Fails WP:BIO since notability is not inherited, being the son of a governor is not notable. Only source is an obituary. Rusf10 (talk) 19:55, 14 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak delete - On newspapers.com, I find a couple routine mentions of where he was stationed in the USN (he retired a commander). His obituary is also in the Baltimore Sun, which carried a few other passing social mentions. I don't see enough that would allow for a clearly NPOV article about him, though. Although the current article doesn't mention it, I'm going to add this to the Military delsort list as he was a Naval commander and perhaps someone watching that list would be interested. I would say that his uncle, Dr. Brice W. Goldsborough, might be suitable for an article in the future. That Brice was an interesting medical doctor and a co-founder of the Cambridge, Maryland Hospital, which became Dorchester General Hospital and is now University of Maryland Shore Regional Health. Smmurphy^(Talk) 18:21, 15 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, not notable for stand alone article. Trivial and Wikipedia is not a newspaper. Kierzek (talk) 18:35, 15 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete No evidence of notability. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:20, 15 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. If it was a full obituary as opposed to just a notice of death, then an obit in the Washington Post should satisfy notability requirements. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:27, 16 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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- I'm not sure if that is true. I am generally happy for people to believe it, because I think that multiple sources covering an individual should include small newspapers, and often an individuals only coverage in a large paper will be an obituary. But my feeling is that the an obituary is one event, and I'd like to see coverage for other events. For instance in this case, Goldsborough has high enough profiles due to his relationships or public positions (son of a governor, commander in the Navy) that his obituary is nationally covered (newspapers.com gives versions in Baltimore, Wilmington, and Des Moines). To me, the Baltimore Sun and Des Moines Tribune are both regionally respected newspapers and reliable sources, of only slightly lower stature than the Post (especially before the contraction of news desks in the 2000s). To me, then, all I would need to see is in-depth coverage at another period. All I find are passing mentions, mentions of his uncle, and his wife's obituary.[1] Smmurphy^(Talk) 16:23, 16 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- Not all by itself, no. It would certainly be a valid source in an article that was well-sourced to a solid range and depth of coverage, but it doesn't singlehandedly confer a WP:GNG pass all by itself as an article's only source. Bearcat (talk) 18:32, 19 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete a death notice does not establish notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:32, 17 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I was able to find this [2]. Seems he rose up to be an embassy attache. A death notice is not enough, even if it is WaPo (and particularly so since he was a Washington area (state dept.) son of an important person (Maryland) - which would make this possibly WaPo local coverage).Icewhiz (talk) 08:44, 18 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. It's certainly possible that he might have a stronger notability claim than this article actually states or sources — but being an embassy attaché is not an automatic Wikipedia inclusion freebie in and of itself, and one death notice is not enough sourcing to get him over WP:GNG for it. I'm willing to reconsider this if somebody can actually find enough sourcing to write more substance about him than just the fact that he existed, but nothing here is enough. Bearcat (talk) 18:30, 19 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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