Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brian H. Cameron

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The result was delete. ‑Scottywong| squeal _ 05:40, 18 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Brian H. Cameron[edit]

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Non-notable individual, no coverage in reliable sources independent of the subject, as required by notability and the general notability guide. What this articles comes across as is a simple Curriculum vitae, and the fact that the subject's place of employment issued a press release trumpeting the creation of the Wikipedia bio an active movement to use the project for marketing purposes. Being the president of a professional organization is admirable, but it is not an inherently notable position. Tarc (talk) 00:31, 8 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep : This is no high cited computer scientists, but his articles as listed at the DBLP Computer Science Bibliography have been cited in some (dozens) of independent reliable sources. This together with being founding president should give him (just) enough notability for inclusion. -- Mdd (talk) 01:02, 8 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    Being cited by others is not in itself a measure of notability. WP:PROF covers some cases for notability for academic types, but it is not a literal substitute for the general notability guide. If a person is to have a Wikipedia article, we expect that reliable sources have written about the individual to some extent. If such sources do not exist, then they do not deserve a Wikipedia article. Tarc (talk) 22:02, 13 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    These source does exist (to some extent). For example the first source listed, describes some of the outcomes of Cameron's work in stating "... Importance of improving the curricula in schools of information systems in the business proposition of SOA as a strategy is discomfort of instructors in improving courses in information systems, so that they are current with industry methods and and practices of firms (Cameron, 2007)" (online) Based on this kind of (preliminary) observations I thought there was enough to start an article. -- Mdd (talk) 22:41, 13 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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STRONG DELETE. For the reasons Tarc mentioned above, and because of a massive undeclared COI. Interestingly enough, User:Nickmalik (Avinash Nicklas Malik) who is a major contributor to this article is on the board of the Enterprise Architecture Body of Knowledge with Cameron,[1] and obviously acquainted through the Federation of Enterprise Architecture Professional Organizations, [2] and quite unbelievably Cameron was surprised when his friend (I mean, "an editor") called him up to say "hey, dude, I wrote that Wikipedia entry you told me to write".[3]. I wouldn't be surprised if a connection between Cameron and Mdd (who started the article and has other suspicious editing behavior that compels me to wonder about potential COIs) were eventually uncovered with a few quick google searches. Burn this vanity circle jerk with fire.--ColonelHenry (talk) 05:09, 13 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • A google search will reveal no connection between Cameron and me, because there isn't any. There is direct contact between me and Nick Malik here on Wikipedia, and Nick Malik is closely working together with Cameron. However, if you would make that Google search you would find another very peculiar 2013 press release, here where Cameron explains that "After publication, the paper will serve as the new entry for EA in Wikipedia." This indeed happened November 2013, and I opposed toward that step, see here with no furter response. Personally, I admit that this kind of press releases are strange, but I think that should not affect our policy. I try to write not just about the main events of this field, but also about its origin and about the state of the art, and for that reason this article was started. -- Mdd (talk) 13:44, 13 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Lankiveil (speak to me) 12:39, 15 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete -- the article is a resume and there is a lack of good sources to turn it into anything else. He is not sufficiently notable to bother trying. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 13:02, 15 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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