Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Book in a Box

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The result was delete. Tone 13:55, 10 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Book in a Box[edit]

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Cannot see how this book publisher can pass WP:NCORP. Founded in 2014, and employs 29 people. None of the cites amounts to much. Edwardx (talk) 12:50, 18 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Satisfies GNG. James500 (talk) 06:24, 21 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Atlantic306 (talk) 20:22, 25 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: When we look a book publishers, we don't necessarily see them as corporations per WP:NCORP but have looked at the cultural impact of their work. /Julle (talk) 20:45, 25 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- Response No we don't - notability isn't inherited. Each book published by a book publisher may have a cultural impact but that is down to the contents of each book, it is not attributable to the publisher. HighKing⁺⁺ 18:48, 30 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  - To say that a publisher would inherit notability from the books they publish, and that their work from a cultural aspect is irrelevant, is akin to saying that a writer is not notable because of notable books. A book is not something that comes in, gets clad in covers and walks out the door. A publisher forms and changes the books they publish. They decide on the norms of the cultural market. Much like a theatre troupe, which can also be a company, we have historically not judged merely for their financial success as corporations. This was, however, a side note; I have no opinion on whether it has any bearing on this publisher, which of course has to pass WP:GNG. /Julle (talk) 18:41, 2 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete At first glance this article appears to be sufficiently referenced but a closer look at each reference in the article reveals that not a single one meets the criteria for establishing notability. Most appear to rely on interviews/quotations with Tucker Max and are not intellectually independent and do not contain original and independent opinion or analysis. From WP:ORGIND, Independent content, in order to count towards establishing notability, must include original and independent opinion, analysis, investigation, and fact checking that are clearly attributable to a source unaffiliated to the subject. Others I can locate such as podcasts or blogs are not regarded as reliable sources. Topic fails GNG and WP:NCORP. HighKing⁺⁺ 18:45, 30 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 05:41, 3 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: fails WP:NCORP / WP:CORPDEPTH. Strong promotional undertones with content such as "In August 2015, Max and Obront published a book, The Book in a Box Method...", failing WP:PROMO. K.e.coffman (talk) 04:53, 6 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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