Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Boita

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep, technically. Various possible outcomes are mooted in this discussion, and none of them are precluded. Further discussion about those can continue on the article's talk page. What this AfD has found is that Boita should not be a redlink. NAC—S Marshall T/C 01:15, 18 November 2010 (UTC) [reply]

Boita[edit]

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Cannot find any reference to "Boita" through web searches. It may just be an Indian word for "boat". The festival may well be valid though it may not be notable enough. References are deadlinks and the page is generally unrefd throughout. Chaosdruid (talk) 01:50, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. -- Jclemens-public (talk) 02:00, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. -- Jclemens-public (talk) 02:00, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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The Boita-Bandana (a.k.a. Boita-Vandana) is quite valid, and gets the same treatment in most sources that I can find as it does here: a paragraph or so in an entry for Orissa. (There are plenty of guidebooks and two encyclopaedias that mention it this way.) There's also a three-item disambiguation in the headnote of this page, so even if the article body content were unverifiable, this could be turned into a disambiguation article by simple editing, no deletion tool use required. However, this article is really about the maritime history of Orissa, and is at least a stub, although perhaps not a very good one (in part because, yes, it is under a title that means, essentially, "ship"), that can be expanded from sources that have that subject as their very titles:
- Panda, Bhagaban (1997). "Maritime Activities of Orissa". In Nihar Ranjan Patnaik (ed.). Economic history of Orissa. Indus Publishing. ISBN 9788173870750.
- Behera, K. S. (1999). "Maritime Activities of Orissa". In Karuna Sagar Behera (ed.). Maritime heritage of India. Aryan Books International. ISBN 9788173051654.
- Bhatta, B. B. (c. 1952). "Maritime Activies of Orissa in the 19th Century, A Brief Study". The Orissa historical research journal. 39–40. Superintendent of Museum.
- Ray, B. C. "Shipping and Maritime Activities of Orissa during the Muslim Rule". Proceeding of the Indian History Congress, 14th session, Jajpur. pp. 172–176.
Executive summary: Wherever one goes with this, one doesn't need the deletion tool to get there. Uncle G (talk) 19:14, 15 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Another source is Economic history of Orissa. Certainly Kalinga had extensive sea trade using boitas, which does not seem to be covered elsewhere and seems to be around the time Bhuddism was introduced to SE Asia. The content is a weak start to what could be an interesting article - but the name is wrong. I may expand this one, but with the intent to move it to something like Kalinga seafaring and then turn this title into a disambig leading to the new article and to Bali Jatra. Aymatth2 (talk) 21:15, 15 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- I suggested maritime history of Orissa because it fits the pattern. Have a look at maritime history of India and consider a possible relationship between that and maritime history of Orissa as between maritime history of the United States and maritime history of Florida. Uncle G (talk) 21:31, 15 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I made a rough start on Maritime history of Orissa, and quickly realized that the subject of trade and colonization is different from the subject of the ships that were used. Sort of like the difference between Viking and Viking ship. I have added a bit of content, and will expand both articles in parallel. Maybe the name is not great - it could be moved to Orissa ships or something. Aymatth2 (talk) 22:11, 16 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep . Encyclopedic and verifiable. Would also support a move to Ships of Orissa.♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:25, 17 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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