Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bob Stand

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The result was redirect to North Sydney Oval. Am happy for anyone to dig into the history and merge any content they can source, but with everything completely unreferenced, a basic redirect seems most sensible Fenix down (talk) 11:21, 2 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Bob Stand[edit]

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Entirely unsourced article about a 1,000-seat stand in a stadium that itself has a more developed article. No evidence that this stand itself passes WP:GNG or any other notability guideline. Very brief mentions in an ESPN article and a book. Current content seems to partially be copied from the official site. — MarkH21 (talk) 08:11, 25 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep This has been unsourced for 12 years, but I think there's enough out there for it to be notable in a before search. The stand itself is very old. At worst a merge to North Sydney Oval SportingFlyer T·C 08:37, 25 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. No reason to have a standalone article for a small stand. Google searches not finding anything further than the nominator, and that is just passing mentions. I can't find anything in the article that is worth putting in the article about the stadium. noq (talk) 09:01, 25 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I get several hits on news.google.com for "Bob Stand" + Sydney, including: [1] and [2], but I can't for the life of me see why this should be an article on its own rather than a paragraph in the main article on the stadium. 110.165.186.42 (talk) 10:16, 25 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Merge into North Sydney Oval. Article only has 2 incoming links, from that article and the larger park that encompasses it. Can't see any reason to keep it as a standalone article. Spike 'em (talk) 10:45, 25 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Merge, for much the same reasons as given by Spike 'em. Meticulo (talk) 11:02, 25 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, brief mentions don't make it notable. I don't think we should redirect the name of a stand to the stadium in which it is located. We're going to end up with George's usual seat → Hooligans' Row → Bob Stand → North Sydney Oval. – Levivich 15:54, 25 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete- clearly not notable, no sourced content to merge. I'd recommend redirecting but, if the (unsourced) etymology of the name is correct, there may be other bob stands at other stadiums. Reyk _YO! 16:14, 25 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge and redirect to North Sydney Oval. Giant Snowman 08:41, 26 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: There's no sourced material in the article to merge anywhere. — MarkH21 (talk) 08:51, 26 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to North Sydney Oval. Given it is a grandstand that has been part of two of Sydney's major sporting grounds (an unusual occurrence) the redirect is appropriate - there is sufficient notability for the stand to be referenced inside the ground article (though I agree a standalone article is not). North Sydney Council's heritage publication here and the SCG page support the line that the stand's name was derived from the admission price during the Depression. Bookscale (talk) 12:09, 26 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - and note to the nominator, the "official site" is not the official site of the ground the stand is currently at, it's where it was taken from in the 1980s. Bookscale (talk) 12:10, 26 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - As per the comment from Levich and Reyk as it's not really a notable stand unlike some of the more famous ones that are out there. HawkAussie (talk) 23:10, 26 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment- why is a redirect to the North Sydney Oval page not appropriate? Bookscale (talk) 01:23, 29 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  - Per Levivich's argument as well as the possible non-uniqueness of the name suggested by Reyk. Besides that (and this is moreso speculation), the Sir Bobby Charlton Stand and Sir Bobby Robson Stand may sometimes be referred to as "Sir Bob Stand" or "Bob Stand" colloquially. — MarkH21 (talk) 05:27, 29 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I very much doubt it actually - Bobby or Sir Bobby perhaps (bit much more likely Charlton at MU - and, frankly, at Ipswich it's much more likely to be called the North Stand colloquially - I live not so far away from it...), but never Bob. Blue Square Thing (talk) 08:44, 29 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I only speculated those because googling “Bob Stand” gives some football blogs that use “Sir Bob Stand” for those (mostly for the Ipswich Town stand). — MarkH21 (talk) 18:20, 29 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps it's Google providing localisation features, but I don't get any hits for any other stands when I type "Bob Stand" into search engines (though a couple other search engines don't bring up stands much at all.) SportingFlyer T·C 01:52, 30 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It's definitely a stretch and seems only colloquial. Some google hits on the Ipswich stand as "Sir Bob Stand": article from The Journal and its clarification (the only reliable source here), an FA Cup blog, comments on an Ipswich fanzine, and two forums which I can't link because they're on WP's blacklist.
While looking around I also found a few Twitter tweets which led me to Ninian Park's "Bob Bank" occasionally called "Bob Stand", with the same etymology as this one per Reyk's point. Either way, I admit that these are all stretches - there's only one reliable source that calls any stand outside Sydney the "Bob Stand". — MarkH21 (talk) 20:19, 30 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Merge and redirect to North Sydney Oval. There is some stuff of worth in it but it's not worth an article on its own. This is the most obvious call here. Blue Square Thing (talk) 08:44, 29 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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