Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bill Popp and the Tapes

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The result was delete. Jayjg ^(talk) 03:46, 22 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bill Popp and the Tapes

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Generally fails WP:MUSICBIO. According to Allmusic and Billboard, artist has released a few albums but has never had anythign that charted. No significant awards. The name wasn't as uncommon as I thought it would be. There are several executives with that name, but most of the gnews returns I got that pertained to this Bill Popp were announcements of where he would be playing or what local TV show he might appear on. I didn't see much in the way of significant coverage. Niteshift36 (talk) 00:05, 8 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The artist' song "Speaks Little English" was a honorable mention in Billboard's 13th Annual World Songwriting Competition. Popp is also a voting member of the New York Chapter of the National Academy of Recording Arts & Sciences. A number of press coverage also features on the band’s official website, with articles in the New York Post, Newsday, etc. Billpopp (talk) 00:28, 8 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I saw the press coverage. Some disagree with me (and some don't), but having the local paper cover local acts doesn't seem like significant coverage. Local papers need to cover local events. That's what seperates them from USA Today. Regardless of their size, the Post etc. are still just covering local events. Honorable mentions don't pass WP:MUSICBIO, nor will being one of many voting members of the Academy. He may very well pass WP:MUSICBIO some day, but I don't feel that he has yet. Niteshift36 (talk) 00:37, 8 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

According to WP:MUSICBIO the artist meets the standard is they have been the subject of a half hour or longer broadcast across a national radio or TV network. The band were featured on a hour long segment on The Joey Reynolds Show on WOR. WOR Radio Network programs are nationally syndicated. Billpopp (talk) 00:59, 8 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I didn't find that in my search. I'm sure you'll provide the source for it. Niteshift36 (talk) 01:31, 8 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Some WOR programs are widely carried. Some are not. The numbers are different for each program. We'd really need to establish how widespread the show really was at the time. Niteshift36 (talk) 03:21, 8 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. —J04n(talk page) 02:03, 8 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Timotheus Canens (talk) 05:09, 14 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Local news doesn't show notability. Joe Chill (talk) 15:15, 16 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Weak delete Local news can show notability, but the standard of significant coverage for subjects whose notability is based on such sources must be higher. I don't think WP:BAND is met. The article's creator (who may have a conflict of interest) has not added any references; in fact, he hasn't edited the article since it was taken to AfD. I've no prejudice against re-creation if he can source the article to reliable sources; otherwise, per WP:BURDEN, I support deletion. A Stop at Willoughby (talk) 01:16, 22 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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