Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bill Enouy

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The result was delete. Sandstein 17:53, 20 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Bill Enouy[edit]

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Snalltown (pop 8K) mayor who doesn't pass WP:NPOL on that basis, and isn't well-sourced enough to get past WP:GNG either. Full disclosure: I created this, at a very different time in Wikipedia's evolution — in 2006, even towns of this modest size could claim notability for their mayors, and you didn't actually need to cite much reliable source coverage as long as the town's website verified that the mayor existed. But those aren't the standards that apply in 2014, so this can't be kept in this state. Delete. Bearcat (talk) 01:40, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 01:40, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 01:40, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ontario-related deletion discussions. Jinkinson talk to me 01:48, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - but maybe set up a list of mayors in the entry for Kirkland Lake to cover these sorts of smalltown politicians? AdventurousMe (talk) 02:06, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Lists aren't a bad idea in principle, but for some of these small towns the challenge is actually finding proper sources to create a list with. Bearcat (talk) 03:17, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I spent hours going through old newspapers on microfiche trying to find the 1919-1930 mayors in a small town (8K to 20K). It was a project for the city hall, who didn't have records that far back. I almost had to go to state archives for the old election returns when some of the newspapers were missing (not filmed) or unreadable. --Bejnar (talk) 23:03, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That's true. The problem in this case is that the location of suitable microfiche archives and the location of any Wikipedia editors actually able to take on such a project have a virtually zero-to-zero overlap. I certainly have access to archival databases of newspapers in which the occasional mayor of Kirkland Lake might have been named in a news article or two, for example, but not to any newspaper that would ever have provided comprehensive or regular coverage of Kirkland Lake's municipal politics. (I can't even comprehensively finish the "former suburban town" subsections at List of mayors of Sudbury, Ontario with the resources that are available to me, and that's the city where I grew up and do have partial only-after-1999 database access to the Sudbury Star.) Bearcat (talk) 01:04, 13 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I see the problem User:Bearcat but wouldn't even an incomplete and patchy list be better than not having the info at all? And it seems a shame to lose the core information (name, date of birth, date of death and period of tenure) when it is probably relevant to these small towns and useful. Once a list is started, at least, others can add to it, perhaps including engaged current local residents - and it also means that similar pages that are set up for other smalltown mayors can be easily shifted to the relevant small towns? There seem to be a lot of these minor politicians who, like school principals and academic deans, probably deserve to be on a list somewhere in the body of the institutions they looked after, although most don't merit their own entries. AdventurousMe (talk) 04:30, 14 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete for failure to have a claim for notability and for lack of coverage per nom. --Bejnar (talk) 23:03, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Clearly not notable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 23:53, 16 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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