Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Big Al's

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The result was keep based on the notability of the former bar (so I, boldly, edited to turn the focus from the current store to the former bar) - Nabla (talk) 16:07, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Big Al's[edit]

Unreferenced with dubious claim to notability. Quick Google test yielded higher results for aquarium supplies than this club. --EEMIV (talk) 02:59, 9 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sexuality and gender-related deletion discussions. —Aleta ^Sing 03:40, 9 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, not notable, no independent sources. - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 03:44, 9 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep there are numerous references to Big Al's in popular culture, and it's clearly a notable SF landmark as it crops up in a wide variety of commentary as such (eg "just opposite Big Al's"). I don't have time right now to update the article (if I get a chance I will later), but searching Google books for "big al's" "San Francisco" comes up with several mentions. Google "Big Al's" "San Francisco" -gore -fish to get rid of Al Gore and seafood cuts down the irrelevant hits a bit more. If you want to be creative add a couple more exclusions (add a - before the term) to narrow even further. Debate (talk) 07:50, 9 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I have added a reference called "Striptease: The Untold History of the Girlie Show" which is a legitimate book. It suggests Big Al's was a notable part of the history of strip clubs, as well as adult entertainment in San Francisco. In addition to being the first bottomless club, it may have been the first club in the world with A) dancers with silicon implants or B) a mother/daughter act. Uh... well anyway, wacky firsts aside, this gets a lot of results on GN Archive and Google books. I have added one source to the article. I doubt the modern sex toy store is notable, but the 1960s club it traces its roots to seems to be. --Rividian (talk) 21:18, 9 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep on the basis of the further explanation.DGG (talk) 02:48, 10 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.