Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bhandarkunda Ledo

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The result was delete. —SpacemanSpiff 00:56, 4 July 2017 (UTC)

Bhandarkunda Ledo

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No evidence of significance, notability or even existence. The google refs only return the title of a government document but no content. The Hindu.com refs make no mention of the article title or even the individual words taken singly. Google searches yield nothing. This may be related to Ledo, Assam but the context is impossible to establish. An earlier PROD was removed by the author with no improvement to the refs. Fails WP:GNG  Velella  ^{Velella Talk}   21:52, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 23:45, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 23:45, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 23:45, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

• Weak delete - There is a village, Bhandarkunda,[1] in Gandey block of Giridih district, presumably this estate was at or near there. However, I don't find any sources on the estate, and the sources in the article are all indirect, so right now it fails WP:V. Offline sources may exist, and if they did, perhaps this would be notable. Generally, I think villages are found to be notable, but this is about the estate and the family of its landowners. Smmurphy^(Talk) 16:05, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, - TheMagnificentist 08:55, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

• Bhandarkunda Ledo or Bhandar Ledo Gadi was a zamindari estate with few villages, many tanks and private forests, which was permanently settled to Babu Shri Kena Ram Rai in an auction. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.29.65.161 (talk) 02:00, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

• Bhandarkunda village and the Ledo village in Giridih district is the place around which this Zamindari estate was located. Many offlicial documents related to erstwhile zamindari estate do exists offline. Documents related to a civil suit that was filed at the district court back in 1920's clearly mentions about Babu Kena Ram Rai and his occupation as Zamindar of Bhandar Ledo Gadi. An online source can be found which mentions about this estate. [2].

I further think that the nomination for deletion was wrong, this discussion should close now and this page should continue to exist and improve with time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rai1112 (talk • contribs) 08:42, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

• Comment - these sources are simply mentions. They convey no notability at all. What is needed are independent reliable sources that discuss the subject, not simple listings.  Velella  ^{Velella Talk}   09:13, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
• Should not be deleted

Above @vella said that there is no evidence of existence and when evidence was shown, she says it's a simple mention.There is no such thing as simple mention or compound mention. Use of adjectives can't change the meaning of mention. The place she googles and mentions about Ledo of Assam is far from where the erstwhile estate was located. @Smmurphy was right about the location and references to a number of offline references.

• Suggest close discussion

The mention of the name of the estate, location, dynasty and title in the notable website [3] clearly proves the existence of this zamindari estate and Vella wrong.  — Preceding Rai1112 comment added by Rai1112 (talk • contribs) 11:35, 30 June 2017 (UTC) 

• Delete - the relevant notability criteria are found at WP:GEOFEAT. Since significant coverage by reliable third-party sources is lacking, notability is not shown. (I was not able to find any such coverage, either.) Besides, the main part of the article is not even about the estate but about individual members of the family, and if those paragraphs are removed, only the lede (which doesn't even claim notability, only that the estate exists) would remain. --bonadea contributions talk 19:06, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

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