Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Benjamin Wade (Survivor contestant) (3rd nomination)

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) DavidLeighEllis (talk) 21:02, 11 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Benjamin Wade (Survivor contestant)[edit]

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Per WP:BLP1E: A memorable Survivor contestant, but not notable for anything outside the show. He's an ordinary person who's done some cool things, which doesn't automatically make him notable. We can't have an article for every game show contestant and every college soccer coach. Survivorfan1995 (talk) 20:08, 4 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - this has already been brought to AfD with a result of keep. I cannot find it but recalling seeing somewhere that top-3 finalists of notable competitions were eligible for inclusion--☾Loriendrew☽ ☏(talk) 02:29, 5 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Loriendrew: If you or anyone is able to find more information on that, I'd be very interested in it. Gloss • talk 03:28, 5 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I spent some time looking for it. I am not sure if it came from another AfD (an 8th-ish place finisher on a UK talent show. I was hoping to find it on some form of contestant notability section or something, but cannot find anything of the kind. I see wp:oneevent and this person being on three such events would make him not fall out of notability. I will keep looking/thinking for where I saw it. --☾Loriendrew☽ ☏(talk) 03:52, 5 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Just because someone has participated on a game show more than once doesn't necessarily make them notable. So I still think he's notable for just one thing. Survivorfan1995 (talk) 04:00, 5 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per WP:GNG Frietjes (talk) 15:14, 5 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: this was one of 7 drive by comments all with the same comment. [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] - Gloss • talk 16:23, 5 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Gloss, what is the point of this comment? This editor is a regular editor, are you saying the keep recommendation is invalid because they used the same reasoning on multiple AFDs? GB fan 18:11, 5 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Invalid? No. Should be taken into consideration? Yes. The comments were made on all of the AfDs within a small span of time. Take it however you'd like. Gloss • talk 18:15, 5 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - WP:BLP1E clearly does not apply: reliable sources cover the person in the context of several events, the subject isn't a low profile individual and their role within three nationally-televised programmes is well-documented. WP:GNG met. ŞůṜīΣĻ¹98¹^Speak

No, it was three seasons of the same show. That's still one event. Just because somebody competed more than once on a game show, doesn't mean they pass WP:BLP1E. Survivorfan1995 (talk) 04:26, 6 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Your argument depends entirely on your personal, extremely-narrow interpretation of a guideline. Based on my interpretation and previous experience of how the wider community views WP:BLP1E, I believe your argument is wrong. ŞůṜīΣĻ¹98¹^Speak 12:44, 6 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 21:10, 5 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 21:10, 5 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep as everyone voted above for meeting the notability guidelines. ApprenticeFan ^work 11:19, 8 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Normally, we only keep the winners of each season of a major reality show, although exceptions have been made. This person has been on several such "game shows", and has done notable things besides. Bearian (talk) 17:53, 9 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Bearian: with all due respect, being on multiple seasons of the same game show isn't quite the same as being a contestant on three different shows. And coaching a non-notable soccer team and conducting orchestra music doesn't add much more notability in my opinion, because those things were done at the local level. He's still mostly known only for Survivor. Survivorfan1995 (talk) 05:15, 10 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

OK, that's a fair comment, but because of the sources, I think he passes WP:GNG anyway. This is one of those reasonable persons can disagree situations. The closing admin is going to have a hard time on this one. Bearian (talk) 17:35, 10 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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