Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ben Falk

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. KaisaL (talk) 08:35, 15 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ben Falk

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I see no basis for the actual notability of this high school basketball coach DGG ( talk ) 08:39, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Maryland-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 09:23, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Basketball-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 09:27, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per WP:GNG. Falk is considered an analytics guru in NBA circles and his work is regularly cited in the media. However, this article should be kept because of the extensiveness of the outside sourcing. There are multiple, independent sources which cover Falk as the subject of their coverage.--TM 12:20, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Falk is more than just a high school basketball coach. He was in the NBA for 5+ years and spent time as an executive. Sports Illustrated did an extensive profile on him. Clearly notable. Pennsylvania2 (talk) 22:40, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comments: he never played ~~football~~ basketball" in high school or college or professionally. He never was a coach in college or a professional team. He was the 76ers " vice president of basketball strategy, " for 2 years. He is now coach of a highschool ~~football~~ basketball" team in a Philadelphia suburb. The articles are PR and the headlines show it. eg., , "Ben Falk Brings NBA Experience to Barrack" If the GNG was meant to cover this, we're not an encyclopedia/ Even the best papers publish PR if they want to make a point, and in this case the point is that he's an Orthodox Jew. I have no idea how common or uncommon this may be in his profesion. DGG ( talk ) 02:10, 2 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comments: He's known for basketball. Best to know the sport you're talking about before commenting on it. Regardless, he was the #2 man in the Sixer's organization and was an executive for 5+ years in the NBA. Clearly, notable. Also, Sam Hinkie and Howie Roseman did not play sports professionally, but are clearly notable as executives. Same with Falk.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Pennsylvania2 (talk • contribs) 00:53, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep NBA executives are usually notable, and Falk is no exception. ~EDDY ^{(talk/contribs)}~ 17:08, 2 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete he was never a coach or major player above the high school level, he is non-notable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:43, 2 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I am currently on the fence regarding notability but I would like to point out that Falk worked in NBA front offices for five years, but was only an executive with the 76ers for a little under two seasons. Even then NBA executives in positions similar to his are not considered to be default notable. Finally Falk wasn't Hinkie's number 2 guy, the best I can find is the Inquirer article which refers to him as one of Hinkie's right hand men. Sachin Gupta, who doesn't have an article, likely holds that distinction if anyone does (per The Athletic, Philadelphia Magazine). Best, GPL93 (talk) 02:07, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Many of the above arguments do not address the key question: does he pass WP:GNG as the subject of multiple, non-trivial independent sources? If you examine the links on the article itself, you will see that this is clearly the case. Whatever his role with a particular team, this is the metric with which we need to judge all articles.--TM 14:22, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Falk's titles as a lower-level NBA executive and high school head coach don't by themselves suggest notability, but substantive coverage of him in the The Philadelphia Inquirer, Sports Illustrated, and The Times of Israel puts the subject over the hump to establish GNG. Jweiss11 (talk) 10:40, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 12:07, 7 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Meets WP:GNG, per what Jweiss wrote above. Though Falk's titles themselves don't suggest that he was particularly important, the coverage he got in national (and even international) media tend to indicate that he was more influential than those titles would suggest. Ejgreen77 (talk) 19:01, 14 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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