Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Belarusian Black Cats

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The result was no consensus. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 16:07, 6 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Belarusian Black Cats

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There are barely sources about this "unit". The Belarusian Resistance, documentary by PartyzanFilm 2008 is a Belarusian nationalist propaganda movie and with safety not neutral. The other sources (Chodakiewicz, Dorril and Wilson) write each only one sentence about the Black Cats. In addition thirty persons are not a guerilla. In my opinion the verifiable content should be moved into the article of Michał Vituška. --Der Rationalist (talk) 19:17, 4 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

~~Comment~~ Oppose. I really don't like what I see happening here. Book references are being removed to provide a justification for the argument. Please follow Wikipedia:Deletion policy#Alternatives to deletion among other guidelines. Thanks, Poeticbent talk 15:23, 7 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I removed content, that is based on the Belarusian Resistance documentary, because it is not a trustable source, but obviously a propaganda movie. The only book reference I have removed was I Won't Die Hungry: A Holocaust Survivor's Memoir by Alice Singer-Genis, because there are no indications that the same group is meant.--Der Rationalist (talk) 19:09, 7 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. There are plenty of reliable sources on the Russian Wikipedia article. The article should be improved rather than deleted.--Catlemur (talk) 21:16, 2 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Discussion page was created without the {{afd2}} template and never transcluded to a daily log. Fixed now--I offer no opinion on the nomination itself at this time. --Finngall ^talk 01:31, 6 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 15:30, 6 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Belarus-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 15:30, 6 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Comment, "I removed content, that is based on the Belarusian Resistance documentary, because it is not a trustable source, but obviously a propaganda movie.", using gtranslate on the scribd source, it appears to be a Polish person's commentary of the documentary, that is why its not useable not that it is "obviously a propaganda movie", (warning sarcasm approaching), we may as well delete all BBC documentary sources from any articles about the English involvement in WWII as being propoganda, although they may have a certain bias., that said agree with nom that subject does not warrant a separate article so delete as subject is adequately covered in Michał Vituška. Coolabahapple (talk) 19:32, 7 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I have to agree with you. The unit consisted of only thirty persons. Therefore it was not a real guerilla, but a small unit of the SS-Jagdverband Ost. The content is better of in the article of Michał Vituška.--Der Rationalist (talk) 11:58, 26 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 07:47, 14 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Music1201 ^talk 02:16, 22 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: final relist — Music1201 ^talk 03:09, 30 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Music1201 ^talk 03:09, 30 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Michał Vituška -- it seems this was a real group, but the material is already covered in the Vituška article. K.e.coffman (talk) 21:25, 5 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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