Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bec Hyatt

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The result was delete. JohnCD (talk) 20:11, 17 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Bec Hyatt[edit]

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Female MMA fighter who has 2 professional fights. She has 1 victory and no title fights. She doesn't meet the level of notability inidicated for male MMA fighters at WP:MMANOT. Article was created by an SPA and fails to give any reason why this fighter is notable. Papaursa (talk) 03:04, 10 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions. Papaursa (talk) 03:04, 10 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. Dl2000 (talk) 03:07, 10 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - The MMA fight source and the newspaper source have editorial oversight and significant coverage to satisfy WP:GNG. However, article is puffy and could be improved. isfutile:P (talk) 17:02, 10 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see any coverage that isn't WP:ROUTINE, such as pre and post fight interviews and results. WP:MMANOT#Fighters says fighters need to have fought 3 fights at the highest level to be notable, and she isn't even close to that level. Papaursa (talk) 23:17, 10 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete There's nothing to show she's a notable MMA fighter. There's some routine coverage, most of which involves her being knocked out, but nothing that shows she's at the level required by WP:MMANOT or passes WP:GNG. Mdtemp (talk) 15:02, 11 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: Beyond the sources in the article, found five other sources that cover her. Article needs improvement but subject appears to pass WP:GNG. Sources I've identified include:
- - Rowdy wants to make noise in USA Geelong Advertiser (Australia) - April 17, 2012 Length: 436 words (Estimated printed pages: 2) ``ROWDY Bec Hyatt has her eyes set on establishing herself in America after a stunning victory at the Australian Fighting Championships. Hyatt monstered her debutant opponent Daniela Marjanovic, ending the fight just 21 seconds into the first round. The result meant the 22-year-old became the first woman to win a MMA fight in Victoria. Hyatt capitalised on a solid right hook that hit Marjanovic flush, sending her crashing to the floor. ``We...
- Female fighters ready to dish up tough stuff Geelong Advertiser (Australia) - April 14, 2012 Length: 222 words (Estimated printed pages: 1) BEC Hyatt and Daniela Marjanovic are tough. Really tough. So tough, in fact, telling someone they fight like a girl is high praise. Hyatt and Marjanovic will square off in the ring at tonight's MMA Australian Fighting Championship at The Arena. The bout will be the first women's MMA fight held in Victoria and Hyatt said she was ready to set the ring alight with her freestyle technique. ``I'm confident. I've trained...
- Canberra Times: Captured by the cage - Duke Didier is back at the scene of his biggest triumph Canberra Times (Australia) - February 18, 2012 Length: 481 words (Estimated printed pages: 2 Captured by the cage Duke Didier is back at the scene of his biggest triumph By Lee Gaskin Mixed martial arts ADDICTIVE: Canberra's Olympic judo hopeful Duke Didier will take on Sydney's Hugo Miller in a mixed martial arts bout tonight. Photo: STUART WALMSLEY Forty-three seconds was all it took for Olympic judo hopeful Duke Didier to be hooked on cage fighting.That's the amount of time the man dubbed the "Duke of Canberra" needed...
- Canberra Times: Fighting for Olympic dreams Canberra Times (Australia) - January 29, 2012 Length: 403 words (Estimated printed pages: 2) Fighting for Olympic dreams By MICHAEL INMAN Adriana Smith, 19, is one of four Canberra women heading for the national boxing titles. Photos: KATE LEITH THEY'RE the striking beauties of Australian sport and this week they'll battle for the right to represent their country at the London Olympic Games. More than 42 female boxers will contest the national boxing titles, across eight weight divisions, in Hobart. It is the first time female fighters will box at...
- Funding fighter - Don't let the name fool you Jessica-Rose is one tough cookie Townsville Bulletin (Australia) - December 1, 2011 Length: 630 words (Estimated printed pages: 2) A running joke has turned into a challenge for local fighter Jessica-Rose Clark. Clark, 24, has been joking about how she might get to Sydney to train with Mixed Martial Arts veteran Jon Leven. ``I had been joking to friends for a while that I was going to ride a pushbike to get there, Clark said. ``The more jokes I made about it the more it stuck in my head and I really wanted to do it, so I rang Adam Washbourne from Fighters Against Child Abuse Australia and... LauraHale (talk) 10:09, 13 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Most of the snippets you give don't even mention the subject, let alone provide the "significant" coverage required for notability. The coverage all seems to be passing mentions or routine sports coverage. WP:ROUTINE says routine sports coverage doesn't show notability, nor are routine sports matches notable, nor is "coverage of pre-scheduled events, especially when those involved in the event are also promoting it." That's generally been accepted to include pre and post fight interviews and coverage. Papaursa (talk) 21:36, 13 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete They don't meet the requirements of WP:MMANOT. The individual also fails WP:ATHLETE in that they have not competed at a "professional competition at the highest level". Her only two fights are for a relatively unknown promotion. If her fights had been with a more notable promotion for women's MMA (even if not one of the top tier promotions listed at WP:MMANOT), there might be an argument for keeping the article. --TreyGeek (talk) 21:37, 13 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Delete The only source provided in the article that gets close to reliable and independent is the one from the The Mercury (here) and that is very clearly just routine coverage of a sports event. Interestingly it puts the event in Hobart and not Launceston (as the article has). So at this time she does not meat the WP:GNG, IMO there should be no bar on recreation if and when she does pass WP:GNG. Mt king ^(edits) 00:01, 14 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: The GNG requires that the subject be discussed in "significant detail" in multiple reliable, published sources. The posted snippets don't qualify, I'm afraid. Ravenswing 01:20, 14 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Nothing other than non specific routine coverage,and barely one WP:RS.Newmanoconnor (talk) 02:50, 14 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Delete fails WP:ATHLETE. one win in a minor tournament is hardly grounds for notability. LibStar (talk) 08:52, 14 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Delete While her Sherdog record actually lists her at 2-1, she has never had a match in either a first or second tier organization, has not fought anyone remotely notable themselves, hasn't cracked the top 10 in her weight division on any credible ranking site to my knowledge (and honestly even that wouldn't be reason enough if she had in my opinion), and has no separate claim to fame. She falls exceptionally short here. I'm fine with this deletion. Beansy (talk) 04:45, 15 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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