Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Battle of Vasylkiv

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The result was merge‎ to Northern Ukraine campaign. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:20, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Battle of Vasylkiv[edit]

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This article's substance and is largely based on events that have not been substantiated. WP:NOTNEWS and WP:NOTEVERYTHING apply. Cinderella157 (talk) 03:10, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: History, Military, Russia, and Ukraine. Curbon7 (talk) 03:23, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: WP:ATD is a redirect to Northern Ukraine campaign. Alternatively, the article can be converted to the "Vasylkiv during the Russian invasion of Ukraine" (courtesy ping to proposer Mr.User200), with a broader scope. Initial reports of a large-scale battle here do not seem to have manifested, and are likely a result of the fog-of-war. Curbon7 (talk) 03:28, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I would agree that anything of value could be merged into Northern Ukraine campaign, though it already has a section Ukrainian victory at Vasylkiv and the content there probably requires review. A search of news here reterns only one hit for "Battle of Vasylkiv" (search in quotes) that is not Wiki or a Wiki mirror. This is not a "named" battle. The reports that do exist look more like smoke and mirrors and/or largely inflated. Cinderella157 (talk) 04:11, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Move to Vasylkiv attacks or Vasylkiv during the Russian invasion of Ukraine. There are sources giving sigcov to events in Vasylkiv during the initial invasion (like the Guardian and NYT articles), including the reports of Russian landing attempts, so WP:GNG is satisfied. There were definitely missile attacks. There may have been incursions by sabotage groups. There may or may not have been an abortive Russian plan to seize the airbase. There probably were not cargo planes full of Russian troops shot down, but that this was reported is an event of the war. (The rooster should be mentioned.) —Michael Z. 16:23, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Just thought I'd mention that currently, Vasylkiv during the Russian invasion of Ukraine is a Redirect to this article. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:45, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to Northern Ukraine campaign -- Like other wars, not every action is independently notable. Sources here are WP:PRIMARYNEWS (and, no, lots and lots of news mentions in the weeks around the battle do not eliminated the need for secondary sources that analyse the longer-term WP:EFFECT required by WP:NEVENT), and there is lack of WP:PERSISTENCE and WP:DEPTH. There is no policy basis for this to be standalone article. Note to closer: If merge is not the consensus, please consider these as arguments for deletion. Cheers, Last1in (talk) 14:47, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Move to Vasylkiv attacks or Vasylkiv during the Russian invasion of Ukraine, since no battle took place and most events reported or covered are separate incidents.Mr.User200 (talk) 13:43, 23 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Merge is another option.Mr.User200 (talk) 02:00, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to Northern Ukraine campaign as an ATD; WP:NOPAGE applies. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:21, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.