Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Battle of Anandpur (1703)
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The result was no consensus. Star Mississippi 02:50, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
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This article has no references, and it's an incomplete stub, need I say more? Noorullah (talk) 16:44, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: History and Military. Noorullah (talk) 16:44, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: ~150 words of coverage here, ~250 words of coverage here, 7 paragraphs of coverage here (p. 112-114), and there is actually a lot more that I can't access on Google Books. C F A 💬 17:12, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- @CFA One of the sources you cited from's author is not a historian, they don't follow WP:RS/WP:HISTRS and aren't scholarship.
- For example: Triloki Nath Dhar -- '...He graduated in science from Punjab in 1948 and received a degree in Indology from Sharda Peeth Research Centre, Srinagar, as approved by Dr Tuci of Rome." ... "...Mr Dhar is an author of short romances, tales, and collections of essays, as well, a theory of Cosmological Physics which he had included in a ‘romantic fiction’ novel which was apparently confirmed fourteen years later by a US space satellite’s discovery of a particularly massive cloud of gas and dust."
- Nath Dhar is not a historian, but an author.
- The other sources seem to check out however. Noorullah (talk) 20:56, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- @CFA, I will comment on the Surjit Singh Gandhi source later after looking into it, but the third source you linked (from the Punjab Digital Library) does not actually make any sort of mention between a 1703 battle in Anandpur beyond "Hostilities again broke out in 1703 as the Guru had greatly increased his military strength and even extended his territory at the expense of the hill chiefs." From then on, the book's content is actually referring to this article [1], in which a joint siege by the Mughals and the hill chiefs compelled Gobind Singh to vacate Anandpur under allegedly false pretenses. It then goes to talk about this article's content-[2] and so and so forth. It's a bit confusing because some sources vary a bit in reporting the dates of battles, but rest assured the book's content (by Bakshish Singh Nijjar, p.112-114) is already covered on Wikipedia. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 05:26, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- And as Noorullah mentioned, Triloki Nath Dhar's book is not a RS; it's a self published trade book by someone who has not authored any serious peer reviewed work-[3]. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 05:30, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- @CFA, I will comment on the Surjit Singh Gandhi source later after looking into it, but the third source you linked (from the Punjab Digital Library) does not actually make any sort of mention between a 1703 battle in Anandpur beyond "Hostilities again broke out in 1703 as the Guru had greatly increased his military strength and even extended his territory at the expense of the hill chiefs." From then on, the book's content is actually referring to this article [1], in which a joint siege by the Mughals and the hill chiefs compelled Gobind Singh to vacate Anandpur under allegedly false pretenses. It then goes to talk about this article's content-[2] and so and so forth. It's a bit confusing because some sources vary a bit in reporting the dates of battles, but rest assured the book's content (by Bakshish Singh Nijjar, p.112-114) is already covered on Wikipedia. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 05:26, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Events, Sikhism, India, and Punjab. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 01:47, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Malinaccier (talk) 21:05, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
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