Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Basil (Bodnarchuk)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 04:08, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Basil (Bodnarchuk)[edit]

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~~Article fails WP:GNG, sites one source which is not only not independent, but also not accessible anymore.. AriTheHorse 04:07, 20 November 2023 (UTC)~~[reply]

Please, remove your nomination. You are wrong stating that the article is based on a single source. There are numerous sources and it is also based on the article from an encyclopedia. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 04:24, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, unfortunately, I may not remove the nomination based on Wikipedia's policies, but any admin can close the discussion and decide not to delete the article. AriTheHorse 04:43, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Also I'd like to point out that you added sources after my nomination. You're right—now that you've added the sources in Ukrainian, it probably (though I'm still not sure, as I cannot read them) fulfills the notability guidelines. AriTheHorse 04:49, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Christianity, Poland, and Ukraine. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 04:18, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: it is trivial to find sources supporting notability online. Thank you @Aleksandr Grigoryev for improving this article. Also of possible interest (but unavailable in my local libraries) are the following:

Боднарчук, Б. ВАСИЛІЙ (Боднарчук Іван Миколайович) [Текст] / Б. Боднарчук. // Тернопільський енциклопедичний словник : у 4 т. / редкол.: Г. Яворський та ін. — Тернопіль, 2004. — Т. 1 : А — Й. — С. 226-227.

Заплетнюк, Є. Пам’ятаймо наставників наших [Текст] : [вечір пам’яті митрополита Василія (Боднарчука) в обл. філармонії] / Є. Заплетнюк // Вільне життя плюс. – 2016. – № 7 (29 січ.). – С. 5. – (Згадали і вшанували)

However I feel I need to point out that the article never failed GNG because GNG does not depend on the inclusion of the relevant sources in the article, just their existence. @AriTheHorse, I appreciate your work nominating articles for deletion but please don't assume no sources exist until you have checked in the relevant language(s)! If in doubt, ask someone who speaks those languages. It's not fair to go right ahead and nominate articles for deletion, because this places the onus on Ukrainian wikipedians to save articles documenting their culture from constant deletion attacks. We lose countless potentially-notable articles this way every year, the majority of which cover subjects not well-documented in English because they were/are not considered "worthy" of translation. When you misuse AfD this way, you perpetuate that injustice. Akakievich (talk) 17:28, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I understand. My apologies. AriTheHorse 19:06, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

thanks, and sorry if i came off quite severe. everyone has a wiki-issue close to their heart, and ukrainian/central asian articles getting improperly afd'd is mine. thanks for understanding <3 Akakievich (talk) 21:26, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This particular person is very controversial, but an essential link in understanding the developing of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church in early 1990s for both the UAOC and the UOC-Kyivan Patriarchate. There is big speculations and accusations from the Russian Orthodox Church about the Ukrainian churches that are based in consecrating of this particular bishop. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 23:41, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it is my fault for posting the article prematurely without posting references and sources for further verification and information gathering. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 23:46, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy keep per above and recommend WP:SNOWCLOSE. Cheers, Dan the Animator 06:47, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as per the improvements to the article with the addition of references that show significant coverage in reliable sources so that WP:GNG is passed in my view, Atlantic306 (talk) 22:47, 26 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.