Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bart Sibrel

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. (non-admin closure) Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 18:23, 7 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Bart Sibrel

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Person himself fails to meet all notability standards per present sourcing of article. Delete. Playing a miniscule role in a fringe lunacy does not make you notable. Also COI, article was created in original [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bart_Sibrel&oldid=4408693 advertising form" by user "moonmovie": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Moonmovie was this article injected for propoganda purposes? Expunge all fluffery. Merrill Stubing (talk) 20:54, 15 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete or merge COI, not notable. Stuartyeates (talk) 07:48, 16 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, v/r - T P 22:38, 23 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

weak keep - this guy is an asshole, but Wikipedia shouldn't put value judgements on people. I came here from Youtube trying to find more information on this guy, not sure how notoable he is, but seems to be useful to have a balanced article here. Nesnad (talk) 07:34, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Deleting someone from not being notable by our standards isn't any sort of value judgment on anyone. Its judging whether someone meets our own internal metrics. Merrill Stubing (talk) 13:02, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:00, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - this long Washington Times article about him says among other things: "Mr. Sibrel may be the world’s best-known skeptic of moon landings." David Moore, a well-known (in Ireland) Irish astronomer, says in this The Sunday Times article, that "Sibrel is one of the leading moon-hoax people". There appears to be "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject" per WP:GNG, especially considering the Washington Times article. Quasi human | Talk 17:39, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Regarding the COI claim, the COI editor last edited the article in July 2004, hundreds of edits have been made in the seven years since then and the current article bears no resemblance to the version last edited by User:Moonmovie, [1]. I don't think that the fact that the article was created by a COI has any bearing on this AfD. Quasi human | Talk 10:26, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.