Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Banana island (diet)

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The result was delete. The one "keep" opinion does not indicate what the criteria it invokes are and what the consensus for them is. Sandstein 07:30, 24 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Banana island (diet)[edit]

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This is a health-focused topic, so much so that it would seem impossible to write an article about it without mentioning the diet's claimed health effects. However, per WP:MEDRS, we may only do so using recent scientific review articles. I looked through Google Scholar and PubMed and was unable to find any suitable sources, except possibly one article mentioning Dr. George Harrup's skim-milk-and-banana diet from 1934, which was never referred to as the "banana island" diet as far as I can tell. FourViolas (talk) 13:08, 16 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - At present, this seems to be a phantom topic. Some sources refer to it as the "banana island diet", others say someone is "on Banana Island". Some present it as the latest short term weight-loss miracle, others as a long-term miracle change to your diet that will make you live forever. Some discuss eating nothing but bananas as a way of somehow and for some reason replacing the body's own detoxification system, others as vital sources of nutrients that apparently humans evolved to need without having access to. In short, this is one term being applied to a potpourri of diet/nutrition fads without quite settling on whether this is the grapefruit diet or the idea that you must drink eight 8 ounce glasses of cold water every day. The closest we have a MEDRS source here is livescience giving nutritional info on bananas, with no apparent reference to the topic (i.e., its inclusion in this article is synthesis). Without reliable mainstream sources discussing the fringe medical claims, we are left with a hodgepodge of newspaper articles and beauty magazines talking about people eating more bananas to various degrees for various lengths of time for various reasons. - SummerPhD^v2.0 15:58, 16 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Food and drink-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 18:13, 16 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Health and fitness-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 18:13, 16 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - without reputable WP:MEDRS, which are not yet available, the article is based on tabloid-style editing, in one or two cases from publications which ought to have known better, and they all essentially repeat the same nothing, i.e. that the diet includes a lot of bananas. Without reliable facts about the (ill-)effects, this is basically just gossip. Delete as WP:TOOSOON if not WP:NOTNEWS. Chiswick Chap (talk) 19:16, 16 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Meets the criteria for other articles in Category:Fad diets, such as Grapefruit diet and Cabbage soup diet. Bk33725681 (talk) 20:04, 16 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

What are those criteria? I could well be overlookinga previous consensus, but if not that's WP:OTHERSTUFF. In any case, grapefruit diet has a RS saying its weight loss claims have "no support from a biochemical standpoint", and cabbage soup diet is mentioned in several RS [1][2][3][4]. FourViolas (talk) 00:42, 17 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed, well said. A !vote based on a call to criteria which do not exist is not well-founded, and should be considered void. Chiswick Chap (talk) 06:23, 17 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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