Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Baltar (Battlestar Galactica)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect‎ to Baltar. (non-admin closure) Actualcpscm (talk) 16:26, 4 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Baltar (Battlestar Galactica)

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Unsourced OR combination of two characters who are similar but not the same. Additionally, the characters are already covered elsewhere. QuicoleJR (talk) 15:16, 28 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Fictional elements and Science fiction and fantasy. QuicoleJR (talk) 15:16, 28 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to List of Battlestar Galactica characters. No evidence of independent notability. WJ94 (talk) 16:07, 28 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The nom is nonsensical--since when is it OR to discuss together two characters from two retellings of one story? It's not in dispute that both Baltars are notable characters, just whether or not this is a good summation of the two separate but similarly named characters. But does any RS treat the disparate characters as a subject worthy of comparison and contrast? Battlestar Galactica and Philosophy: Knowledge Here Begins Out There, by Jason Eberl, ISBN 9781444356571, appears to... but I ran out of preview pages before I got to the next-to-last chapter where I think it does. It's entirely worthwhile to cite both character sketches in this combination from the RS in their respective articles, but I don't see a policy-based reason for deleting this. Jclemens (talk) 00:38, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
1. Both Baltars being notable is definitely in dispute, seeing as Count Baltar just had an AFD that closed as merge.

2. I do not see how this is not a redundant CFORK of Gaius Baltar and Count Baltar/List of Battlestar Galactica characters.

3. One book is not enough to prove that the concept is notable.

QuicoleJR (talk) 01:37, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
1. Rather poor form of you to not mention a related AfD that appears to have been closed within a day prior to your starting this one. Obviously, I missed it, because this article would have been a better merge target.

2. The fact that you are ignorant of WP:SS as an organizational technique is easily rectified; by all means, go read about it.

3. One book is enough to demonstrate that your BEFORE was lacking and the topic merits further investigation and discussion. Jclemens (talk) 06:37, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Convert to a dab page with two entries. There's no need to regurgitated plot details and actors' names. Clarityfiend (talk) 04:26, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Baltar, which is far easier to navigate than List of Battlestar Galactica characters. There's no need for regurgitated plot details and actors' names, so this page doesn't serve much of a purpose, but redirects are cheap. Clarityfiend (talk) 04:30, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to the bigger disambig as linked above. No need for this sub-disambig that clearly has mutated into a very poor article. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 04:54, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Baltar; unnecessary glorified DAB page. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 11:06, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to DAB where this is already covered in a more organized way. As is, this is just a poorer DAB, with no hope of expansion into a properly sourced article. Shooterwalker (talk) 00:51, 31 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.