Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Baldini & Castoldi

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) —Theopolisme (talk) 04:13, 10 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Baldini & Castoldi[edit]

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This is quite the messy one. The article creator wrote a dozen or so new articles, most were speedy deleted, and the editor was blocked for disruptive editing. I am nominating this article for XfD because it does not meets WP:CORP. While superficially it appears to have sources, most of them appear to either be directly related to the company or blogs. Here is my breakdown below:

http://www.bcdeditore.it/ - Official blog of Baldini Castoldi Dalai.
http://www.bcdeditore.it/pagina-di-esempio/ - Same as #1.
http://www.san.beniculturali.it/web/san/dettaglio-soggetto-produttore?id=66116 - Business listing (user edited content).
http://emmelle.over-blog.it/article-baldini-castoldi-editore--informazioni-storia-85862204.html - A blog about the company.
http://www.cinquantamila.it/storyTellerThread.php?threadId=DALAI+Alessandro - A reliable source but only trivially mentions Baldini & Castoldi, among a few other publishers too.
http://www.repubblica.it/2003/i/sezioni/spettacoli_e_cultura/delbuono/delbuono/delbuono.html - News article about the death of Oreste Del Buono, trivial mention of Baldini & Castoldi in one sentence, also a few other publishers mentioned.
http://www.sololibri.net/+-Baldini-Castoldi-Dalai-+.html - A blog with a page about the company.
http://www.booksblog.it/post/7219/curiosita-la-baldinicastoldi-dalai-cambia-nome-almeno-sul-sito - A blog about the company.
http://www.libriebit.com/interviste-libri-bit-enrico-brizzi/ - A blog interview with Enrico Brizzi with a trivial mention about Baldini & Castoldi.
http://www.centopagine.it/node/91 - Biography of Giorgio Faletti. Possibly a company profile page that trivially mentioned Baldini & Castoldi.

Mkdw ^talk 00:20, 3 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

~~*Delete~~ A collection of blogs, user generated/altered coverage, and trivial non-item specific mentions. Does not meet WP:CORP or general guidelines for notability via WP:GNG. Barada wha? 00:47, 3 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Italy-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:43, 3 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:43, 3 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:43, 3 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Keep: bad nom, WP:BEFORE failure. We don't consider a topic as non notable just because it is poorly sourced, but only if reliable sources does not exist. Article still needs a bit of cleanup (and probably copyedit), but I can assume the nominator's concerns about the lack of notability of this 120 years old publishing house were addressed, so a withdrawal is suggested. Cavarrone (talk) 06:33, 3 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Please try to assume good faith. I always conduct WP:BEFORE. Old does not mean notable. The burden is always on the creators/editors of the article. I certainly appreciate you adding sources, but none of the La Stampa pages load for me to verify. BooksBlog and Sololibri as stated above are blogs. I found the book Potresti anche dirmi grazie: Gli scrittori raccontati dagli editori and it does talk about Baldini & Castoldi on several pages. The Repubblica story is a reliable source too but does this put the company with in WP:CORPDEPTH? Mkdw ^talk 07:13, 3 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The La Stampa articles are perfectly accessible from my computer (maybe it depends from the location of the PC?) however verification does not require ease of access. And yes, the book Potresti anche dirmi grazie supports every single thing the original creator wrote. I have also added 2 more books and one journal sources, you are ignoring in your above "review". Google Books offer even more, but I think it is enough. Cavarrone (talk) 07:35, 3 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the Article Rescue Squadron's list of content for rescue consideration. Northamerica1000^(talk) 09:24, 5 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Seems to be a respectable publisher and User:Cavarrone seems to be doing good work improving the article — bravo! Our editing policy is to develop such articles, not to delete them. Warden (talk) 18:15, 9 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Appears to pass WP:CORPDEPTH per:

(in Italian) Gianola, Rinaldo (April 12, 1997). "Va a majority of the Dalai Baldini & Castoldi". La Repubblica. Retrieved March 9, 2013.
(in Italian) "Scrittori: Baldini Castoldi ricorrera' in Appello per brera". IGN. February 4, 2004. Retrieved March 9, 2013.
(in Italian) Simone Mosca (5 February 2013). "Un quadro e cento libri per ricordare Baldini". La Repubblica. Retrieved 3 March 2013.

—Northamerica1000^(talk) 01:01, 10 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment appears to have extensive revision. Deferring prior vote in preference of others notations. Barada wha? 02:43, 10 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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