Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bagh-e Latifan

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The result was keep. Whether other articles should exist or not, it appears this one meets GEOLAND Star Mississippi 20:35, 12 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Bagh-e Latifan[edit]

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Deletion proposed by VersaceSpace because "It's a garden". Looking at the coordinates on Google Maps' satellite view, it doesn't look like a garden to me. Seems like a small town. According to Google Maps, there's a mosque. There's also the "چشمه الیا" ("Elia Fountain") nearby which Google says is a "tourist attraction". @4nn1l2: any comment? — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 13:10, 3 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Geography and Iran. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 13:30, 3 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Definitely not a garden now! If Liverpool is a swimming pool, then Bagh-e Latifan may be a garden too ;-) Statistical code: 216806, population: 257 persons in 66 families, including 127 men and 130 women, according to the latest census in 2016. Use Ctrl+F: 216806 to find its entry. 4nn1l2 (talk) 13:39, 3 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Appears to be a genuine village, so passes WP:GEOLAND. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:25, 6 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Looking at these many prods, VersaceSpace seems to think just because the co-ordinates given point specifically to a garden this is all the article is referring to! No, the article refers to the whole village. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:15, 6 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There have been dozens, no hundreds, of these locations that have been PROD'd over the past two years (see Wikipedia:WikiProject Geography/Article alerts for some recent examples), not just by VersaceSpace but by quite a few editors who are trying to clean up some mass produced stub articles. There was even an AN discussion and an Arbitration case about thousands of articles that all had the same questionable source used to justify that they were an actual occupied settlement. You can debate the fate of this one article but, speaking as an admin who reviews PRODs each day, this deletion tagging has been a movement on the part of several editors to clean up "village" and unincorporated settlement articles (places in Azerbaijan, Iran, Africa, California, Virginia, etc.) that could not clearly be confirmed to have been occupied settlements meeting GEOLAND requirements.

And that doesn't even touch on the successful effort a while back to PROD the New York state "pond" articles which weren't about lakes and large bodies of water but about larger puddles in someone's back field or the articles on numerous local streams that couldn't ever be considered to be notable except for the people who lived next to them and weren't well documented. Years ago, Wikipedia had many mass produced articles from editors who are now long gone who seem to have had some free time and a local map or atlas and who created articles on every geographic feature for a location. It was a big problem a decade ago that some editors are trying to clean up these days. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 18:43, 6 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed. But that is all irrelevant to this particular article, which is very clearly a village and therefore meets our notability guidelines. -- Necrothesp (talk) 09:36, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I was one of those users who helped cleaning up the mess Carlossuarez46 had created. I only PRODed abadis with no population, but here we see that abadis with a sizable population are getting tagged and PRODed too. We should be more careful about these abadis. I suggest we wait until the Iranian government publishes an official list of villages in Iran. 4nn1l2 (talk) 10:37, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: more participation needed
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Less Unless (talk) 20:33, 12 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.