Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Axel Hay

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep, leaning slightly towards merge. But anyone can merge the articles without any AFDs. Stifle (talk) 20:01, 10 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Axel Hay[edit]

This nomination ALSO includes the following articles:

These articles do not meet WP:FICT. The guideline states "fictional concepts can be presumed notable if they have received significant real-world coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject" this article does not meet this. For similar case see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brad Armstrong (Home and Away) and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Roman Harris and all the other fictonal character pages that were deleted as they wern't considered notable. Wikipedia is an encylopedia and not a home and away fan site. This should be an issue based on the relevant wikipedia policy and not a personal oppinon, keep this in mind. Unless it can be found that these characters recicved notable real world coveraged and this can be refrenced i believe that these articles should be deleted. If those other articles that have been deleted have been deemed not be 'real world notable' what makes these different?? I hope i have made my case clear. Printer222 (talk) 14:39, 2 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment What about merging them all into a list of Home and Away characters?AquaHaute (talk) 16:13, 2 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think if the articles should be deleted, then the entire Home and Away page should be deleted. If they do get deleted, then I will consider sueing this website for racial discrimination against Australians! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.195.88.43 (talk) 16:16, 2 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Quite a few of the merge voters are Australians. Somehow I don't think self-discrimination is a huge problem. Orderinchaos 17:05, 6 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Merge into List of Home and Away characters, List of current Home and Away characters, or Recurring characters of Home and Away, as appropriate for a given character, per the consensus (see WP:OUTCOMES) that this is the best way to handle information about ficticious elements that do not demonstrated independent notability. —Quasirandom (talk) 17:30, 2 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Merge into a list as suggested above. This is pretty much standard practice for articles like this. Delete as second choice if for some reason the merge isn't possible. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 17:59, 2 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment in relation to the comment by (talk). The page series of Home and Away is notable as it would have recicved real world coverage however the character pages are not.Printer222 (talk) 23:30, 2 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom, and ignore the anon's ridiculous rant. JuJube (talk) 10:20, 3 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional characters-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp (talk) 16:54, 4 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp (talk) 16:54, 4 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Merge Clearly per the practices advocated at WP:FICT - no real-world notability asserted to justify individual articles. Eusebeus (talk) 17:01, 4 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per Quasirandom, they're valid search terms and should be covered in a list Cari^Me_Speak! 20:57, 4 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Convert to redirects to List of Home and Away characters {{R to list entry}} or delete. Don't keep or merge. This articles have no real-world information. They fail notability guilelines per WP:FICTION and WP:SOAPS -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:49, 4 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Merge anything useful and sourced to List of Home and Away characters, and then redirect all articles to that. Lankiveil ^{(speak to me)} 00:08, 5 May 2008 (UTC).[reply]

Suggest closing admin leave a note at WP:AWNB if they don't want to (or don't feel comfortable) performing the merge. dihydrogen monoxide (H₂O) 08:40, 5 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Merge except:
- V. J. Patterson -> http://www.backtothebay.net/cast/bio/patterson_vj.shtml delete as copyvio
- Tony Holden (Home and Away) -> http://www.backtothebay.net/cast/bio/holden_tony.shtml delete as copyvio
Orderinchaos 17:03, 6 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, the nominator gives an invalid reason for deletion. WP:FICTION is not a guideline, it's a proposal. And WP:N is not a policy. The article could certainly be merged into a list of characters so deletion does not appear to be an option. --Pixelface (talk) 15:39, 7 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
If someone comes up with sources that meet WP:RS then I'm for merging into Recurring characters of Home and Away but if these more minor characters like Axel Hay have no verifiable reliable sources then they really ought to be deleted. Axel Hay is listed on IMDb for only one episode, is this correct? If it is then it needs to be deleted. One episode is not enough for notability, IMHO. Sarah 07:34, 8 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Seen the article for Pippa Saunders? Completely unreferenced, largely speculation and really not very good writing. (Pippa even has a "foster bother".) Orderinchaos 11:12, 8 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, If we delete the articles, then at the end of the day, we are only vandalising the Home and Away article, and it will eventually lead to the entire Home and Away article being deleted, which in my opinion will only cause controversy amongst Australian fans.--Scouser1961 (talk) 18:01, 9 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment, this seems to be a rather exaggerated prediction. If anything, keeping these on one page ([[Home and Away]) will make it much easier to keep the vandalism down, thus leading to an increased quality overall on our coverage of the topic. Lankiveil ^{(speak to me)} 12:24, 10 May 2008 (UTC).[reply]
CommentUgh, get rid of the Martha one and put us all out of our misery. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.45.105.31 (talk) 23:52, 9 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment these pages have nothing to do with the actual home and away article. Basiclly, how is deleting them going to effect the main article in any way??? The vital information can still be present in another article after a merge. Printer222 (talk) 01:26, 10 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.