Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Awake (Skillet album)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Erik9 (talk) 23:24, 31 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Awake (Skillet album)[edit]

WP:CRYSTAL, no sources. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Many otters • One bat • One hammer)} 15:08, 22 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. -- J^mundo 21:36, 22 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. The only source in the article does not verify the album's title. In fact, the title has no been announced has a possible release date in August 2009. At this point, this article is nothing more than speculation. — Σ xplicit 22:16, 22 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. WP:CRYSTAL is not a reason to delete all articles about upcoming events or product releases; it is a warning to avoid speculation. "All articles about anticipated events must be verifiable, and the subject matter must be of sufficiently wide interest that it would merit an article if the event had already occurred... In forward-looking articles about unreleased products, such as movies and games, take special care to avoid advertising and unverified claims." The last album of the band was Grammy-nominated, the producer is Howard Benson, and once it is released the album will definitely have an article. Ten Pound Hammer, Explicit, did either you look for sources? (see WP:BEFORE). This article verifies that they are releasing an album in August 2009, but doesn't give the name:[1]. These articles confirm the name and that it is finished recording, and give some info about the recording process:[2][3][4][5][6]. Seven sources is enough to verify this release, due in a mere 3 months. Fences and windows (talk) 22:21, 22 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The burden of evidence lies with the editor who adds the material. Still, I have struck my comment above. — Σ xplicit 22:38, 22 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I too wish that editors creating articles would provide some sources. It'd save us all a lot of trouble. Fences and windows (talk) 02:38, 23 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:38, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Per Fences and windows, the sources absolutely make it notable.--Giants27 (t|c|r|s) 13:20, 31 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. The quoted WP:CRYSTAL certainly does not apply here; that guideline is for articles that are primarily speculative about future topics. The album is confirmed and covered by multiple sources, and I believe I removed all prior original research from the article. Jamie^☆S93 13:29, 31 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The References are from an official website. It is not speculation--Qwertluis (talk) 23:23, 31 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.