Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aviation International News

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The result was no consensus. –Darkwind (talk) 08:57, 7 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Aviation International News[edit]

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Fails WP:NCORP because there are no signficiant independent secondary WP:RS Theredproject (talk) 11:18, 13 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. Theredproject (talk) 11:18, 13 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Aviation-related deletion discussions. Theredproject (talk) 11:18, 13 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions. ^{Engr. Smitty Werben} 12:48, 13 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of News media-related deletion discussions. ^{Engr. Smitty Werben} 12:48, 13 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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DELETE: fails the SIRS test The Ace in Spades (talk) 11:59, 15 December 2020 (UTC) — The Ace in Spades (talk • contribs) is a confirmed sock puppet of Waskerton (talk • contribs). [reply]
- The what? - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 04:00, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  - The Bushranger I had the same "what?". I found the relevant WP:SIRS.--Marc Lacoste (talk) 05:55, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I've updated it with WP:RS. Thanks for keeping it, it's not a large company but it's always welcome to learn what is the background of a publisher often used as a ref in wikipedia. Cheers!--Marc Lacoste (talk) 13:32, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Marc Lacoste, Just to clarify, per this diff [1], the two sources you added are a Bloomberg business profile, and a press release? Theredproject (talk) 21:04, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  - Theredproject Jetcraft Aviation (a toll group subsidiary) + Bloomberg + a NBAA press release for an award the NBAA attributed. More clear in wikitext-diff maybe.--Marc Lacoste (talk) 05:52, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    - Marc Lacoste, so... an interview in a publication that itself is not notable, a routine business register listing that provides very little information, and a press release for an industry award that isn't mentioned on the page about the NBAA industry group. I appreciate your effort, but none of this meets the WP:SIRS requirements for WP:NCORP. Theredproject (talk) 14:58, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      - Of course it's a small business. The point is to link it in the publisher field within references.--Marc Lacoste (talk) 15:17, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete lacks significant coverage in reliable independent sources. What coverage exists that is significant is either not reliable or not independent. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 06:42, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Eggishorn How are Toll group, Bloomberg or the NBAA not reliable or not independent from AIN?--Marc Lacoste (talk) 05:35, 24 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please read my comment more closely. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 19:32, 24 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

OK, thanks for confirming those are reliable and independent. The parts supported by AIN itself could be questioned or even removed if you want.--Marc Lacoste (talk) 07:03, 25 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain (talk) 03:29, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - seems to reach the threshold for WP:GNG in its present form. There is room for more text and refs, but what we have now is an acceptable start to build upon. - Ahunt (talk) 14:50, 24 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Ahunt, can you please specify which sources satisfy the WP:SIRS requirement? Theredproject (talk) 09:15, 25 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- I'll also add that WP:NCORP is the appropriate guideline which describes what is required from references, none of which meet the criteria for establishing notability. HighKing⁺⁺ 18:05, 3 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain (talk) 17:05, 29 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete The criteria for establishing notability for companies/organizations as per WP:NCORP is for multiple sources (at least two) of significant coverage with in-depth information *on the company* and (this bit is important!) containing "Independent Content". "Independent content", in order to count towards establishing notability, must include original and independent opinion, analysis, investigation, and fact checking that are clearly attributable to a source unaffiliated to the subject. None of the references in the article meet the criteria and having searched I am unable to locate any references that meet the criteria. Topic fails GNG/WP:NCORP. HighKing⁺⁺ 20:35, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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