Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Autoput 1 (Serbia)
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was speedy redirect to E70 in Serbia. Per WP:SK #1 and suggestion of S Marshall. I'm invoking WP:IAR to the extent necessary to effect this close. (non-admin closure) Tim Song (talk) 16:56, 13 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Procedural nomination: I removed a {{db}} tag as it was not in WP:CSD. A WP:CSD G4 nomination was previously declined by User:DGG, apparently because he was not able to find the previous AfD discussion. As I know zero about the topic, PROD seemed inappropriate. CSD tagger's concern was: there is no A-numeration of highways in Serbia. E-numeration is used instead. As this is a procedural nomination, I am neutral. Tim Song (talk) 18:35, 6 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Serbia-related deletion discussions. -- –Juliancolton | Talk 00:32, 7 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions. -- –Juliancolton | Talk 00:33, 7 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep -- This is only a stub, buit we have articles on much less important roads in other countries. I think the E-numbering is a Europe-wide one. Several counties use this in conjunction to a national system for non-Euroroutes. MY only query is whether this article should not be merged with E70 in Serbia, of which the present stub states that it is part. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:36, 7 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep per Peterkingiron Admrboltz (talk) 02:02, 8 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: I feel that the original tagger's concern, and that of the previous AfD discussion, is not WP:N but WP:V. In particular, whether this designation is actually used in Serbia. The Gsearch results do not give me confidence. I've invited the tagger to comment here. Perhaps that could help focus the discussion a bit. Tim Song (talk) 02:38, 8 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Tone 10:38, 13 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Doesn't WP:SK ground 1 apply here? We have an AfD in which, for the past week, nobody has actually asserted that this material should be deleted.—S Marshall Talk/Cont 16:05, 13 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm personally not inclined to SK it due to concerns raised in the previous AfD. See also the article's talk page. The CSD tagger thinks it's OR but for some reason never commented here. Tim Song (talk) 16:10, 13 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Hm. He agrees that Autoput is the Serbian for Motorway. I think it's entirely possible that this road is not usually called "Autoput 1" in Serbia, but what that establishes is the case for a redirect, not the case for deletion.
"Delete" would make sense if this wasn't a plausible search term, but actually I should think it is plausible, for a searcher familiar with the normal patterns of road-naming on Wikipedia.
With regard to the previous AfD discussion from 2007, I believe the consensus has changed.
I'm going to go with redirect to E70 in Serbia. I'll go a bit further too, and say this should probably be done speedily per WP:SK ground 1, on the basis that the discussion has been open for more than the seven days, nobody has argued for "delete", and AfD is quite busy enough without extended discussions on eastern European roads after a consensus has already formed.—S Marshall Talk/Cont 16:34, 13 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Hm. He agrees that Autoput is the Serbian for Motorway. I think it's entirely possible that this road is not usually called "Autoput 1" in Serbia, but what that establishes is the case for a redirect, not the case for deletion.
- I'm personally not inclined to SK it due to concerns raised in the previous AfD. See also the article's talk page. The CSD tagger thinks it's OR but for some reason never commented here. Tim Song (talk) 16:10, 13 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.