Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Attih Soul

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Draftify. is a reasonable AtD and will give Amaekuma time to work on it. Star Mississippi 16:31, 16 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Attih Soul

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Non-notable musician. Most coverage consists of puff pieces Mooonswimmer 15:41, 8 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Artists, and Bands and musicians. Mooonswimmer 15:41, 8 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, to be honest I don't know where to append my appeal but I'll just put it here and hope it's enough

First of all, I'm supposed to have ten minutes to put the introductory statements of my article together before I get flagged. Right? That's true according to wikipedia rules right? You didn't even allow the time elapse and here I am getting all these red flags. Such overzealous aggressive has an under tone like I'm not welcomed to contribute here on Wikipedia. I have read what Wikipedia is and isn't and that definitely isn't what Wikipedia is.

Secondly, I know Wikipedia isn't a place that frowns at good faith edits. Wikipedia is great today because a wide range of good faith edits are allowed. Let me do my thing. I am still working on the rules and I haven't broken any rules so far

Thirdly, the backbone of Wikipedia is citations. If I was given time, I would have provided citations

I'm going back to working on the article. Bye Amaekuma (talk) 15:55, 8 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to influence the outcome you would normally start your comment with something like "keep" or "delete". It's clear you don't want this deleted. We could argue about how notable this person is, you can do that by sharing sources that prove that here. But also you could ask for "draftify" which means you get infinite time to work on it before anyone can judge if the subject is notable. That would be the easier path, I suggest. But you could argue to keep if you can share with us three good sources, that is the less easy path, but totally up to you. I recommend you read the document top right entitled "Introduction to deletion process". All the best to you. CT55555 (talk) 16:11, 8 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

My apologies for the promptness of my nomination. My intention was not to intimidate you in anyway. You've done some great work on previous articles, and I myself am still new to many things, including AfD. I will consider withdrawing my nomination as a gesture of good faith. Perhaps I'll opt for some maintenance tags.

However, I did conduct a quick preliminary search before the nomination. Most of the articles I came across were obviously sponsored puff pieces. Regarding the sources you've just added:

Attih Soul bags double masters degree in Barcelona (Guardian Nigeria) Sponsored post, see Wikipedia:WikiProject Nigeria/Nigerian sources. ~~The article contains a spelling mistake ("artiste") that Attih Soul himself made in a WikiProject AfC Help desk request back in February 2020, so it's possible the article was written by him.~~

Meet Attih Soul, the Bio Chemistry graduate who rose to a Superstar in Barcelona (Opera News) Generally unreliable source with no editorial oversight, likely sponsored, see Wikipedia:WikiProject Nigeria/Nigerian sources

Attih Soul, Otta Orchestra thrill at RMF Word-for-word copy of the article on Guardian.ng, which is generally a more reliable source.

I think the deletion discussion should revolve around whether or not his participation in the Road to Yalta festival and his composing of the Democracy Day Theme Song of Nigeria make him a notable musician as per WP:MUSIC.

Also, I haven't accused you of breaking any rules or of making bad faith edits. But I'd humbly suggest working on an article in your sandbox or as a Draft before publishing it. You can definitely expand the article after publishing, but I believe there are much better ways to create an article than publishing one that consists of a single sentence and one unreliable source and then working on it. And to be honest, I'm not familiar with the 10 minutes rule.Mooonswimmer 18:15, 8 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Artiste, is not a typo, I think. If I understand the context of what you are saying correctly. CT55555 (talk) 18:23, 8 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I wasn't aware of that, thanks! I was wondering why the article used both spellings of the term. I checked some articles on BBC News Pidgin to see if it was a West African Pidgin English thing, and that indeed appears to be the case. Quite a few articles use the spellings interchangeably. False conjecture, my bad. Mooonswimmer 18:40, 8 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Some speakers of British English use it too. CT55555 (talk) 18:43, 8 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Using both "artist" and "artiste" in the same article is what I found intriguing. Mooonswimmer 18:50, 8 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Drafity Article doesn't meet criteria as it stands, but if someone is keen to improve in the short term, that seems like the fair step to take. CT55555 (talk) 16:01, 8 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I don't see a LOT of substantial coverage, but I think there's probably just enough there to warrant an article, possibly more in non-English language sources. I'll withhold my !vote to see what gets added to the article. PianoDan (talk) 16:12, 8 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Draftify Oblige the page creator and give them time to improve this article in Draft space where, hopefully, it will go through AFC. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:32, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete The artist should be mentioned in the articles detailing his works. While his work may be noteworthy, the artist is not notable enough for a Wikipedia read.Exquisit (talk) 14:03, 12 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.