Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Asterix Conquers America

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The result was keep. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 16:02, 24 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Asterix Conquers America[edit]

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Appears to fail WP:NFILM as no reviews found in a BEFORE.

PROD removed. DonaldD23 talk to me 12:49, 17 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Film, Comics and animation, France, and Germany. DonaldD23 talk to me 12:49, 17 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
~~Comment~~ Keep This article is in 20 languages, which is pretty widespread - and there's a lot more info and sources in the French page. I'd be loth to write it off, TBH, but am reaching for the popcorn and sitting on the sidelines for now... (update: off the fence!) Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 13:17, 17 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I removed the Prod because I found this: I can't access the contents, but this movie has a separate entry (chapter?), so this at least should mean some indepth, independent information. The film is still being shown on TV[1] (despite what the article now claims, it wasn't made for the direct-to-video market but was made as a cinema movie, but didn't perform well there). More significant coverage can be found here, a short entry here. Reruns on French television are quite successful2013 2015. Most likely there were reviews when the film was new, the above sources are all from decades later. Fram (talk) 13:41, 17 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I dont' find much in French for the film; the comic book of the same name has coverage, mostly for being banned in several schools due to the portrayal of Native Americans. Oaktree b (talk) 13:43, 17 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep even beyond the non-English language sources it meets WP:NFILM with sufficient notable reviews, there were quite a few brief reviews from England during its release and at least one decent-ish review online in Empire: Asterix Conquers America Review. A few behind paywalls I can't easily access but found basic info on: Asterix Conquers America (Asterix in Amerika) directed by Gerhard Hahn, Felperin, Leslie. Sight and Sound; London Vol. 5, Iss. 8, (Aug 1995): 38. Asterix Conquers America (Asterix in Amerika) directed by Gerhard Hahn, Hansen, Eric. Variety; Los Angeles Vol. 358, Iss. 9, (Apr 3, 1995): 144. The Arts: A magic potion for the summer, DELINGPOLE, JAMES. The Daily Telegraph; London (UK). 11 Aug 1995: 14 (with a pull quote of It's this sort of topical humour which will keep grown-up yawns at bay while the kids are enthralled by this witty, superbly animated and generally faithful update of Goscinny and Uderzo's comic book, Asterix and the Great Crossing.". "Asterix gets in a real States", Liverpool Echo, England, Friday, August 11, 1995. A paragraph in Turning the Page, Austria, Peter Lang, 2006. Skynxnex (talk) 13:49, 17 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Per Fram, people need to start doing do better BEFORE clearly...★Trekker (talk) 13:50, 17 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment No harm to nominator, the article needed better sourcing and was sloppy as presented - and the film, despite its 20 WP articles, was pretty much direct to video. That's hardly the stuff of The English Patient... Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 14:21, 17 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- True, but it is way more than your average direct-to-video though, e.g. in 2012 it was used as a lengthy example in a German book on "innovation management"[2]. It looks as if it had a wide but somewhat disappointing cinema release in France, with 125,000 visitors the first week[3], ending with about 1 millipn visitors in France in total[4]: not the success of other Asterix movies, but a real cinema release anyway (in other European countries as well). Fram (talk) 14:44, 17 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  - Even with all of the paywalled sourced we're looking at squeaking over the bar not a clean pass. Nominator is to be commended and their BEFORE appears to have been adequate. Being wrong and being incompetent aren't the same thing and its inappropriate to attack the nominator in a deletion discussion. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 14:58, 17 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    - Please reply to who actually attacked the nominator, I didn't. Fram (talk) 15:05, 17 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
      - Trecker. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 15:27, 17 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
        Then don't put such blanket statements in a reply to me please. Fram (talk) 15:45, 17 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
        If they're blanket and not personal statements whats the issue? Horse Eye's Back (talk) 15:47, 17 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
        That the indentation gives the impression of it being a personal statement, i.e. you are stating "its inappropriate to attack the nominator in a deletion discussion." in reply to me, even though it wasn't a reply to me at all. Fram (talk) 16:06, 17 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
        I apologize for any inconvenience I've caused or insult offered whether intentional or not. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 16:17, 17 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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