Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Assaf Inbari
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. (non-admin closure) —Theopolisme 07:58, 9 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Assaf Inbari[edit]
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Novelist who had one award of unknown notability. Lots of external links to his work, but no significant coverage by WP:RS. Dennis Brown - 2¢ © Join WER 20:16, 17 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - This article was nominated for deletion only moments after it was posted and before the more detailed link to Home (2009 novel), which I trust satisfies your criteria for notability, went up. Don't you think you were jumping the gun a little bit? See also the Hebrew Wikipedia page link on Inbari and his significance and press coverage. -- ColdNorthWind2 (talk) 21:04, 17 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I saw the book and determined that it is very likely notable and not a problem. The problems with the author have been outlined below, and it is actually a common problem, so it didn't require hours of research. Dennis Brown - 2¢ © Join WER 03:03, 19 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Israel-related deletion discussions. -- Cheers, Riley Huntley 21:02, 17 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. -- Cheers, Riley Huntley 21:02, 17 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. -- Cheers, Riley Huntley 21:02, 17 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. This is significant coverage in a reliable source, as is this, reaching the final five in the Sapir Prize for Literature doesn't seem something that would happen to a non-notable writer, and his work is cited by several other authors. --Michig (talk) 21:41, 17 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Those two sources are about the book not the author (make a few comments about the author but the articles are about the book which has its own article). Nomination for a major prize would be notable under WP:ANYBIO .. if it happened multiple times. He only had a single nomination. -- Green Cardamom (talk) 02:32, 19 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Per WP:AUTHOR #3, a film was named after the book. Uncertain how much the film follows the book, but still influential of the film. The National Book Publishers Association of Israel is red-link, but it was established in 1939, so it's a venerable institution in Israel and I'm assuming it carries significance to receive the top(?) Platinum award, per WP:ANYBIO #1.Note to ColdNorthWind2: The "problem" (from the point of view of AfD) is the author is notable for one book, and that one book has been given a separate article, thus separating from the author the one thing he is notable for (notability is not inherited across articles). If the book article were to be merged into the author article, there would be no problem meeting notability as all those other sources would become part of the article.-- Green Cardamom (talk) 02:30, 18 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]- Comment The "film" referenced by the Haaretz article is a 2-minute video clip that can be viewed at Oded Hirsch's website. Other than Hirsch also being from Afikim, the inclusion of this reference seems to me kind of pointless and serves to weaken the article on Home. I also think that Inbari's work in journalism and literary criticism is sufficiently strong enough to stand apart from his novel, and goes to notability. - ColdNorthWind2 (talk) 02:49, 18 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Ok struck the film as rationale. Also, unable to verify "Israel Book Publishers Association" Platinum prize is anything of note. I don't see any sources that show the author is notable outside the book, and since the author didn't win any major awards (per WP:ANYBIO) or meet other guidelines of WP:GNG or WP:AUTHOR (all of the sources are primarily about the book, not the author), and since notability of the book is not inherited by the author, per WP:INHERENT, it looks problematic. I'll abstain from voting for now until others have a chance to look at it and comment. -- Green Cardamom (talk) 04:24, 18 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment The "film" referenced by the Haaretz article is a 2-minute video clip that can be viewed at Oded Hirsch's website. Other than Hirsch also being from Afikim, the inclusion of this reference seems to me kind of pointless and serves to weaken the article on Home. I also think that Inbari's work in journalism and literary criticism is sufficiently strong enough to stand apart from his novel, and goes to notability. - ColdNorthWind2 (talk) 02:49, 18 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Per a search for secondary sourcing, he fails WP:AUTHOR and his book fails WP:BK. Bear in mind WP:42. Qworty (talk) 05:09, 19 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. Home is the subject of significant coverage in multiple reliable sources (Haaretz, NRG, etc.) if you - surprise! - search in Hebrew. Sapir finalist may also confer notability. Contrary to arguments that these make the book notable but not the author, general practice and guidelines indicate that the author of a notable book is notable. –Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 23:18, 21 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. This author is well-known in Israel, has written widely discussed essays in Haaretz and Azure, and his book was a finalist for the Sapir Prize, which is like Israel's equivalent of the National Book Award, Man Booker, and Pulitzer all rolled into one. Nobody familiar with the Israeli literary scene would consider deleting the entry for a moment. If anything, the entry understates the subject's importance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.228.139.24 (talk) 18:41, 28 November 2012 (UTC) — 84.228.139.24 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —Theopolisme 14:44, 24 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Redirect/Merge to Home (2009 novel), which seems to meet Wikipedia's criteria better than the author does at this point. Most coverage is about the book, not about him, suggesting that he fails WP:AUTHOR. I also checked Google Scholar since he is also a teacher, but the results were not impressive. --MelanieN (talk) 00:47, 1 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz talk 05:26, 2 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Clearly the author is well-known in Israel/Hebrew language sources.Deathlibrarian (talk) 07:44, 2 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Per WP:ANYBIO and WP:AUTHOR#4C, although I suppose there's room for interpretation, mainly whether or not this man's work is significant enough to get through the notability threshold. §FreeRangeFrog 20:49, 2 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Somewhat marginal for the English wiki, but I'm an inclusionist. A case can be made for merging it with the book, but in that case I'd propose moving the book here rather than the other way around. Zerotalk 09:18, 7 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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