Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ashkenazi intelligence (3rd nomination)
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Speedily closed as keep. This is the fourth, not third, nomination for the same article, and is doomed to fail the same way the others did. Furthermore, in this case, the nom didn't even bother providing a valid reason or justification for the nomination beyond her personal disgust with the topic. I see no reason to disrupt the project with yet another pointless AfD. Owen× ☎ 16:16, 15 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Wow I just have to say an article about the intelligence, whether sourced or not, on any group or ethnicity should not exist at all, let alone on Wikipedia. This includes the quote, "They have high verbal and mathematical scores, while their visuospatial abilities are typically somewhat lower, by about one half a standard deviation, than the European average.." I mean what the hell? Is this serious? And I can't believe that it was kept due to a previous discussion with no consensus. It does not matter if it discusses higher or lower intelligence, it is the fact that their intelligence is discussed in the first place. Really. --Henriettapussycat (talk) 14:51, 15 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Keep Wikipedia is not about truth or political correctness. The nomination makes no pretense that there is an issue about notability or sources, claiming that articles like this "whether sourced or not... should not exist at all". This issue has already been discussed and addressed before, and the ample reliable and verifiable sources support notability here without question. Alansohn (talk) 15:58, 15 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep (edit conflict with close) Right now the article looks like BS. The only real comparative data given in the article show only a trivial (and possibly statistically insignificant) difference in intelligence. And, of course, any study that goes near race-based intelligence differences is politically incorrect and will get attacked. But the topic is notable. "Should be written better" is a reason to improve, not delete. North8000 (talk) 16:22, 15 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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