Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Arrest of Richard Golden

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The result was delete. Courcelles (talk) 17:49, 24 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Arrest of Richard Golden

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Per WP:BLPCRIME, we shouldn't have articles about otherwise non notable persons accused of crimes (but not convicted). Fram (talk) 16:24, 17 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Crime, Events, and New Jersey. Fram (talk) 16:24, 17 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Non-notable individuals who have not yet been convicted of a crime are protected by WP:BLPCRIME. Wikipedia is not a police blotter, and we do not publish incriminating Wikipedia articles for every person whose arrest has been covered in the media. Cielquiparle (talk) 22:07, 17 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge with an as yet unwritten article about Sheriff Mike Chitwood, who appears to be quite outspoken in his views and is probably more notable than this particular person called Richard Golden. At least half the sources in the article appear to be related to Chitwood's statements and actions around the Goyim Defense League hate group. A dozen other group members have been arrested, so why single out Golden's arrest in particular? While one could argue that the crime is notable but this story wouldn't even be news if the victim was not the elected sheriff of Volusia County, Florida and previously the Police Chief of the Daytona Beach Police Department. The double handful of Wikipedia articles I have found about the Arrest of <a person> appear to be notable because of the long term notability of the arrest itself, due to things like violence, photography, historical events, journalists or foreign nationals accused of spying, or other controversies where the arrest is condemned as being abusive or inappropriate. I don't see that here. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 22:31, 17 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment We can't merge to an article that doesn't exist. Joyous! Noise! 16:29, 18 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Cameron if your considering writing an article about Chitwood, I think I saw some SIGCOV beyond this 1E. Worth checking. // Timothy :: talk 00:21, 22 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to Goyim Defense League or a seperate article about Mike Chitwood. It seems more appropriate now for it to go to a seperate article about the sherrif, or be merged in to the Goyim Defense League as they are the ones behind the string of hate comments and such, but it is something that does have notabiltity due to the fact this has been going on for weeks and the nature of the incidents. Jennytacular (talk) 23:39, 17 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Now that I have seen other policies, the best course of action appears to be to remove this article since the issues addressed are valid and until he is convicted or this acheives significant coverage again, it should be drafted or removed for now.
Jennytacular (talk) 04:11, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. WP:BLPCRIME clearly states, For individuals who are not public figures; that is, individuals not covered by § Public figures, editors must seriously consider not including material—in any article—that suggests the person has committed, or is accused of having committed, a crime, unless a conviction has been secured. Merging this content, which really is focused on accusations against a non-notable individual, into another article, is still a violation of Wikipedia policy. Cielquiparle (talk) 00:58, 18 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete concur with the analysis that Wikipedia:BLPCRIME suggests a delete in this instance. Not an independently notable individual prior to charges, not yet convicted, and a merge doesn’t resolve the issue. Jo7hs2 (talk) 03:56, 19 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:BLPCRIME. It seems like a standard arrest, except with Florida with the Sunshine Law to having that information available. – The Grid (talk) 06:07, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Goyim Defense League, whom this individual appears to be part of and whose activities are related. Djflem (talk) 16:03, 21 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete based on WP:BLPCRIME, a standard arrest. Nothing to merge; there is already a brief mention of the event at Goyim Defense League. Joyous! Noise! 18:47, 21 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: BLPCRIME, per nom and others. // Timothy :: talk 00:13, 22 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - WP:BLPCRIME, WP:NOTNEWS, fails WP:GNG. Take your pick.Onel5969 ^{TT me} 22:04, 23 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.