Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Arlen Gargagliano

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The result was delete. — Joseph Fox 00:05, 30 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Arlen Gargagliano[edit]

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BLP that has been tagged for "notability" for over 2 years (since June 2009) and still fails to provide evidence of notability per either WP:GNG or WP:BIO. I have found plenty of PR blurbs about this person, but I have been unable to find evidence of independent published coverage. Orlady (talk) 21:17, 15 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Fails WP:BIO Puffin ^{Let's talk!} 21:17, 15 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. —Tom Morris (talk) 21:21, 15 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Orlady, there is an entire article in the NYTimes entirely devoted to her, and one in the Miami New Times. I agree articles in the Miami New Times might not be discriminating enough to show notability, but a full multi-p. article in the NYT surely is a RS for N, . (The only question, is that it was in their NY Region section. But even that is discriminating coverage; I have not t=known them to publish PR blurbs. If we're going to go by GNG, she's notable. (Myself, I don't go by GNG when it fails common sense, so that isn't necessarily entirely decisive for me) . But the relevant concern is WP:CREATIVE. She is co-author or author of 8 published cookbooks in Worldcat--see WorldCat Identities Three of them have over 200 library holdings in WorldCat , & none seem to be self - published. She also has a textbook on ESL, published by Cambridge University Press, A person who writes a textbook published by that publisher is a notable writer. We already have 2 reviews . There are over 50 others in Google News Archive: Miami Herald, NY DAily News, Chicago Tribune.... what we have is sufficient to meet WP:CREATIVE and the GNG. DGG ( talk ) 22:37, 15 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I don't count brief announcements of bookstore signing appearances as indications of notability, nor newspapers' reproducing an article from a cookbook. I haven't seen the Miami New Times article you mention, but the NYT article that I know about is only a lightweight piece about her teaching a cooking class. There's also an NY Daily News piece about her role in creating an ESL program for restaurant workers. What I get out of all these things is that she's a competent professional in her field who has sometimes been mentioned in newspapers, which is hardly the same thing as notability -- particularly when you consider that this is all publicity generated to sell her cookbooks and her services. --Orlady (talk) 22:53, 15 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Support DGG's comments. Vitaminman (talk) 08:48, 16 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:00, 22 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Weak delete She is certainly on the cusp of notability. The NY Times seems like an instance of significant coverage. The Daily News piece and the Miami piece are pretty slim, more about food than about Gargagliano. There is a lack of actual biographical information about her in the sources presented so far. There is no automatic or inherent notability, contrary to what DGG says, just because someone has a book published by Cambridge University Press. Having X number of books which were bought by Y number of libraries is also helpful in separating successful professional writers from wannabees, but does not automatically establish notability. Edison (talk) 00:40, 22 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Weak delete. She just isn't all that notable at this point in time and while this part didn't really feed into my decision, I know I've never seen her cookbooks on the shelves of my local bookstores. Tokyogirl79 (talk) 18:40, 22 August 2011 (UTC)tokyogirl79[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. — • Gene93k (talk) 00:04, 24 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. To be notable, the subject must have significant coverage in the media. One article is not enough.--Huh direction (talk) 10:31, 24 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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