Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ar-Raheeq Al-Makhtum

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The result was redirect to Safiur Rahman Mubarakpuri. (non-admin closure) sst✈ 16:01, 14 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Ar-Raheeq Al-Makhtum[edit]

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I came upon this article after seeing linkspam promoting the text inserted in a couple of articles. The article's only two "references" for the book are commercial links to buy the book. The subject doesn't appear to meet the necessary notability criteria; the author himself also doesn't even appear to satisfy WP:AUTHOR or the general notability criteria. Quinto Simmaco (talk) 22:12, 21 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Per WP:BEFORE, I performed a few cursory searches for reliable sources discussing the text, but found only forums, organisation-related links, and the like: Google Search for the English title transliteration, Google search for the English title translation, +"book", News links- no dice there, and nothing significant on Google Scholar.

I'm sure it's read, and influential to some, but it doesn't appear to be cited or discussed by any source at length outside of WP:SELFPUB sources, including those related to his mosque and madrasa. The articles for the mosque and the author have been previously PROP'ed and are probably ripe for AfD themselves. I personally don't see the notability here, nor do I see any significant reliable sources materialising. Quinto Simmaco (talk) 02:48, 22 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Safiur Rahman Mubarakpuri, considering that there is an article about the author (for now). Mainly fails the "significant coverage" part of WP:GNG. I see lots of passing mentions on GBooks (mostly reference lists), but nothing substantial enough to warrant a separate article. - HyperGaruda (talk) 11:46, 22 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 04:26, 29 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 12:29, 7 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep what do you mean by notability i think you need to read this WP:NBOOK Well 1st thing is this book is an authoritative and popular biography of the Muslim prophet Muhammad. Its 1st Arabic version was awarded first prize by the Muslim World League, at the first Islamic Conference in 1979, following an open competition for a book on the life of Prophet Muhammad. The book competed with 170 other manuscripts, in Arabic, Urdu, English, French and Hausa ( According to WP:NBOOK No.2 its an award winning book ).. The book takes into account various phases of the life of the Prophet Muhammad PBUH. The book provides authentic references which makes it more reliable and less controversial ( According to WP:NBOOK No.3 it is a significant contribution about Prophet Mohammad's Life ).. This book is translated in many languages like in English, Urdu, Hindi, French, and many others… if its not a notable book why they are wasting money on it lol... its not a NOTABLE because it took 1st prize in a open competition and it is very Authentic Biography of Prophet Mohammad..? anyway all i can say right now The article is poorly written only... no issue with the notability... Peace Out!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:16A2:8A64:6000:BD7E:8668:1F5A:77E8 (talk) 02:28, 9 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Reply. Anonymous IP, I'm familiar with NBOOK. First of all, that's a guideline, not a policy. More importantly, The example you gave doesn't satisfy its criteria. The guideline refers solely to literary awards. Not to an award given in an internal and non-notable contest. The organisation you're citing is itself mostly notable due to controversy and their alleged links to terrorist organisations. Lastly, it would have to meet several of the criterion in order to be considered; not just one. Just because a book goes through more than one printing, or is widely disseminated, doesn't make it notable. Notability is conferred by sources, and is not inherent or self-evident. Quinto Simmaco (talk) 17:20, 9 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Safiur Rahman Mubarakpuri, because there is also a book with similar name which is written by Abdollah Javadi-Amoli about philosophy of Mulla Sadra [1][2]--Seyyed(t-c) 01:42, 12 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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